Gerard,
That link you just sent shows the names in the category (I see there
are already a few more than 264 - cool). Could it be possible to have
the Q numbers shown as well? Now I see the Q number with mouse-over,
but if Magnus (cc'ing him now) could let me screen-scrape those then I
can first update my data and then send you my m-f data with Q numbers.
Jane

2014-04-21 9:03 GMT+02:00, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen@gmail.com>:

> Hoi,
> There are only 264 people identified as Radcliffe alumni. Someone did a job
> on adding this fact to Wikidata so I started off with some 250 already. I
> completed the list. The category information on Wikidata includes a query
> that shows you the current number.. There is a similar query on the Harvars
> alumni category by the way.
>
> http://tools.wmflabs.org/reasonator/?&q=8618565
>
> As to your proposal to have a list and idenfity the Wikidata items from
> them.. Given that ToolScript does JavaScript, it should be doable. I would
> ask Magnus to write an example that I could copy and change..
> Thanks,
>       GerardM
>
>
> On 21 April 2014 08:28, Jane Darnell <jane023@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Gerard,
>> Actually historically speaking, there will be fewer Harvard alumni as
>> women because they graduated from Radcliffe, not Harvard, no?
>>
>> Anyway, how about a trade - I will send you all of my male-female data
>> with Wikipedia entity names, and you send me back the Q numbers? Or
>> can you only accept data with Q numbers as a field?
>>
>> Jane
>>
>> 2014-04-21 7:58 GMT+02:00, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen@gmail.com>:
>> > Hoi,
>> > I blogged about the issue of sex ratios on Wikidata [1]. The experiment
>> > I
>> > did with Harvard alumni was to get some idea about the number of humans
>> who
>> > were not yet known as human. I added a substantial number of them to
>> > have
>> > an item for each entry in the category on the English Wikipedia. I
>> > assume
>> > that as a group they are relatively well covered; they are ivy league
>> > and
>> > some of the best and brightest studied there. When you look at the sex
>> > ratio for the Harvard educated, you will find that it is worse than for
>> the
>> > general population. I suppose it is an indication of the amount of
>> > items
>> > that still need to be identified as human.
>> > Thanks,
>> >       Gerard
>> >
>> >
>> > [1]
>> http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2014/04/wikidata-its-sex-ratio.html
>> >
>> >
>> > On 21 April 2014 00:53, Stuart A. Yeates <syeates@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Gerard Meijssen
>> >> <gerard.meijssen@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > To be blunt, Wikidata gains the quantitative quality I am looking
>> >> > for
>> >> when only male and female
>> >> > is added where applicable. Transgender issues with respect are edge
>> >> cases.
>> >>
>> >> Transgender issues are primarily raised because they're vitally
>> >> important for people today, but they're not the only issues.
>> >>
>> >> Far more numerically superior are the issues of people writing under
>> >> other-gendered pseudonyms; that's a systemic problem, in the GND data
>> >> for example. "Lord Charles Albert" "Florian Wellesley" and "Currer
>> >> Bell" were only outed as pseudonyms of Charlotte Brontë once she
>> >> achieved a certain level of fame. Modern analysis suggests that there
>> >> are probably thousands if not tens of thousands of other writers who
>> >> never achieved that level of fame and never had their pseudonyms
>> >> revealed. GND and similar library data commonly base their gender data
>> >> on nothing more than the apparent gender of the name on the cover page
>> >> (librarianship practice, unlike archival practise, takes such things
>> >> at face value). To take that librarianship practise out of context and
>> >> assert that that those thousands or tens of thousands of authors were
>> >> men (rather than just publishing under male or ambiguous names) isn't
>> >> going to get you sued, but that doesn't mean it's not the
>> >> white-washing of generations of women writers.
>> >>
>> >> cheers
>> >> stuart
>> >>
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