Hi all,

Just a note to re-acknowledge that we have received the questions on this thread and you should expect a response from us by Friday, July 8.

Max, if you are working against a deadline that cannot wait until July 8, please ping me off-list and I'm happy to chat with you more about it.

Best,

Leila

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Leila Zia

Research Scientist

Wikimedia Foundation

On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 9:50 AM, Leila Zia <leila@wikimedia.org> wrote:

​Hi Daniel,​

On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 5:48 PM, Daniel Mietchen <daniel.mietchen@googlemail.com> wrote:

Dear all,

this situation was actually discussed in detail when the policy was
drafted, and it is reflected in two parts of the policy:
- Under "C. Published Materials. Researchers will publish any output
in an Open Access outlet under a Free License.", it states
"If a work based on the project is accepted for publication in a peer
reviewed outlet that does not make its articles available online, free
of charge, and under free licenses, an electronic copy of the author’s
accepted manuscript will be submitted to a public and permanently
archived repository by the official date of publication, without any
embargo period, and released under a Free License." ==> This basically
means you can publish in closed-access journals, as long as you make a
pre- or postprint openly available.

​To clarify: Under the OA policy you are expected to publish the post-print version, and if you cannot, you should ask for a limited waiver. This is explained in Section D, Question 1 in the FAQ.

​Best,

​Leila​

Cheers,
d.

On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 10:17 PM, Jonathan Morgan <jmorgan@wikimedia.org> wrote:
> Thanks, Sydney and Pine.
>
> This is timely, as Resources is currently re-vamping their instructions for
> grant proposals (including research-focused grants). So it's a good time to
> hammer out our policy and process here.
>
> Max: if you're willing to ping me off-list and relate some of the details of
> your conversation, that will help me follow up on the particular issue
> you're facing right now.
>
> I want this to be clear and easy for grantees going forward—if WMF is
> funding research, we should be prepared to support the dissemination of that
> research in a way that aligns with our values. In the future, I would like
> to see grantees budget anticipated OA fees into their requests, and a
> process for vetting this during the proposal review period.
>
> I know there has been some conversation between Research and Resources
> around this issue in the past, but I don't know if there were decisions
> made... more likely I'll need to start it back up again. We're all still
> working out the kinks in the OA policy (even staff researchers are trying to
> understand the ramifications for our work).
>
> I'll make sure to notify this list when I learn more.
>
> Jonathan
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 11:45 AM, Sydney Poore <sydney.poore@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Max,
>>
>> This issue was discussed in the context of a paper about Wikipedia working
>> with medical students in the classroom.
>>
>> See the talk page and endorsements for the discussion that led to the
>> grant being approved. .
>>
>>
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:PEG/bluerasberry/open_access_release_funding_for_paper_on_Wikipedia_in_classroom
>>
>> Sydney
>>
>> Sydney Poore
>> User:FloNight
>> Wiki Project Med Foundation
>> WikiWomen's User Group
>> Facebook https://www.facebook.com/sydney.e.poore
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 9:49 PM, Maximilian Klein <isalix@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> As you might know WMF has an Open Access Policy that requires all work
>>> that they fund to be Open Access[1]. A strange consequence of this policy,
>>> that I recently ran into, is that it requires researchers funded by grants
>>> to publish OA -- but without providing any funding to do so. That is, I
>>> recently completed an Individual Engagement Grant (IEG), part of whose scope
>>> was explicitly to write a paper about the work[2], and when I wrote to WMF
>>> to acquire funds for OA publishing, they confirmed that the paper was under
>>> the OA mandate but indicated that funds were not available to pay for OA
>>> publishing.
>>>
>>> Has anyone else use WMF's Open Access Policy?  What was your experience?
>>>
>>> [1] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Open_access_policy
>>> [2]
>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/WIGI:_Wikipedia_Gender_Index#Activities
>>>
>>> Make a great day,
>>> Max Klein ‽ http://notconfusing.com/
>>>
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