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Geth N7

2 Nov 2013 2 Nov '13

2:55 a.m.

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From what I understand, a category doesn't exist until the page for the

category is edited, so even if there are categories listed on a page, unless those categories have been created, they do not actually exist until their description pages have been edited. I ask this because I'm in charge of wiki that has a lot of blank categories (it was created from an XML dump made from content from another wiki engine that did not support categories in the MediaWiki sense), and I would like to mass add some text to all of these "wanted categories" so they can be properly indexed. Is there a way to do this, or will I have to edit all these categories manually?

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John

2 Nov 2 Nov

2:57 a.m.

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Depends on what kind of text you want to create the page with. On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Geth N7 <infiltrator7n(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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From what I understand, a category doesn't exist until the page for the category is edited, so even if there are categories listed on a page, unless those categories have been created, they do not actually exist until their description pages have been edited. I ask this because I'm in charge of wiki that has a lot of blank categories (it was created from an XML dump made from content from another wiki engine that did not support categories in the MediaWiki sense), and I would like to mass add some text to all of these "wanted categories" so they can be properly indexed. Is there a way to do this, or will I have to edit all these categories manually? _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l

Geth N7

3:48 a.m.

New subject: Is there a a way to "mass create" category pages for wanted categories

What I want to do is mass create category description pages for all of these wanted categories. The text would simply be a link to a "master category" that they would all fall under (for organization purposes). My problem is that bot programs (like AutoWikibrowser) don't seem to have the capability to create category description pages since the pages don't exist, and since I have thousands of pages to create, I really wanted to add text to these new pages in bulk, but I'm at a loss for how to create pages in bulk with preselected text. On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 9:57 PM, John <phoenixoverride(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Depends on what kind of text you want to create the page with. On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Geth N7 <infiltrator7n(a)gmail.com> wrote:

until

their description pages have been edited. I ask this because I'm in charge of wiki that has a lot of blank

categories

(it was created from an XML dump made from content from another wiki

engine

that did not support categories in the MediaWiki sense), and I would like to mass add some text to all of these "wanted categories" so they can be properly indexed. Is there a way to do this, or will I have to edit all these categories manually? _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l

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Benjamin Lees

3:30 p.m.

New subject: Is there a a way to "mass create" category pages for wanted categories

It's nothing fancy, but Special:WantedCategories (or, better, its API equivalent) will give you the list, and the edit.php maintenance script, Pywikibot, or the bot framework of your choice will let you create pages from the list. On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 11:48 PM, Geth N7 <infiltrator7n(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Depends on what kind of text you want to create the page with. On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Geth N7 <infiltrator7n(a)gmail.com>

wrote:

until

their description pages have been edited. I ask this because I'm in charge of wiki that has a lot of blank

categories

(it was created from an XML dump made from content from another wiki

engine > that did not support categories in the MediaWiki sense), and I would

> to mass add some text to all of these "wanted categories" so they can

properly indexed. Is there a way to do this, or will I have to edit all these categories manually? _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l

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Geth N7

4:22 p.m.

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Thanks! That's exactly what I needed to know. On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Benjamin Lees <emufarmers(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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What I want to do is mass create category description pages for all of these wanted categories. The text would simply be a link to a "master category" that they would

all

fall under (for organization purposes). My problem is that bot programs (like AutoWikibrowser) don't seem to have the capability to create category description pages since the pages don't exist, and since I have thousands of pages to create, I really wanted to add text to these new pages in bulk, but I'm at a loss for how to create pages in bulk with preselected text. On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 9:57 PM, John <phoenixoverride(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Depends on what kind of text you want to create the page with. On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Geth N7 <infiltrator7n(a)gmail.com>

wrote: > > > From what I understand, a category doesn't exist until the page for

the

category is edited, so even if there are categories listed on a page, unless those categories have been created, they do not actually exist

until

their description pages have been edited. I ask this because I'm in charge of wiki that has a lot of blank

categories

(it was created from an XML dump made from content from another wiki

engine > that did not support categories in the MediaWiki sense), and I would

> to mass add some text to all of these "wanted categories" so they can

be > > properly indexed. > > > > Is there a way to do this, or will I have to edit all these

categories

manually? _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l

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Geth N7

4:44 p.m.

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Well, correction: I think edit.php is the route I plan to go to do this, but how would I extract a list of every wanted category so all the pages could be converted as a batch with whatever wikitext I desire? I followed the instructions on the https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Edit.php page, but I'm not sure how (if possible) to apply a "wildcard" to the Category: so that it will batch create category description pages for every category. On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Geth N7 <infiltrator7n(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Thanks! That's exactly what I needed to know. On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Benjamin Lees <emufarmers(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:

What I want to do is mass create category description pages for all of these wanted categories. The text would simply be a link to a "master category" that they would

all

fall under (for organization purposes). My problem is that bot programs (like AutoWikibrowser) don't seem to

have

the capability to create category description pages since the pages

don't

exist, and since I have thousands of pages to create, I really wanted to add text to these new pages in bulk, but I'm at a loss for how to create pages in bulk with preselected text. On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 9:57 PM, John <phoenixoverride(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Depends on what kind of text you want to create the page with. On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Geth N7 <infiltrator7n(a)gmail.com>

wrote: > > > From what I understand, a category doesn't exist until the page for

the

> > category is edited, so even if there are categories listed on a

page,

> > unless those categories have been created, they do not actually

exist

until > their description pages have been edited. > > I ask this because I'm in charge of wiki that has a lot of blank categories > (it was created from an XML dump made from content from another wiki engine > that did not support categories in the MediaWiki sense), and I would

like > > to mass add some text to all of these "wanted categories" so they

can

be > > properly indexed. > > > > Is there a way to do this, or will I have to edit all these

categories

> manually? > _______________________________________________ > MediaWiki-l mailing list > MediaWiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l > _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l

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Mlpearc

5:01 p.m.

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Can't you have edit.php place this statement on all category pages ? "This is the {{PAGENAME}} category." *Mlpearc* Founder Everything Food & Drink.org everythingfoodanddrink.org<http://www.everythingfoodanddrink.org/w/index… Phone: 760-718-1290 On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Geth N7 <infiltrator7n(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Thanks! That's exactly what I needed to know. On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Benjamin Lees <emufarmers(a)gmail.com wrote: > It's nothing fancy, but Special:WantedCategories (or, better, its API > equivalent) will give you the list, and the edit.php maintenance script, > Pywikibot, or the bot framework of your choice will let you create pages > from the list. > > > On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 11:48 PM, Geth N7 <infiltrator7n(a)gmail.com>

wrote:

> > > What I want to do is mass create category description pages for all of > > these wanted categories. > > > > The text would simply be a link to a "master category" that they would > all > > fall under (for organization purposes). > > > > My problem is that bot programs (like AutoWikibrowser) don't seem to > have > > the capability to create category description pages since the pages > don't > > exist, and since I have thousands of pages to create, I really wanted

> > add text to these new pages in bulk, but I'm at a loss for how to

create

> > pages in bulk with preselected text. > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 9:57 PM, John <phoenixoverride(a)gmail.com>

wrote:

> > > > > Depends on what kind of text you want to create the page with. > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Geth N7 <infiltrator7n(a)gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > From what I understand, a category doesn't exist until the page

for

> the > > > > category is edited, so even if there are categories listed on a > page, > > > > unless those categories have been created, they do not actually > exist > > > until > > > > their description pages have been edited. > > > > > > > > I ask this because I'm in charge of wiki that has a lot of blank > > > categories > > > > (it was created from an XML dump made from content from another

wiki

> > > engine > > > > that did not support categories in the MediaWiki sense), and I

would

like > > to mass add some text to all of these "wanted categories" so they

can

be > > properly indexed. > > > > Is there a way to do this, or will I have to edit all these

categories

> > manually? > > _______________________________________________ > > MediaWiki-l mailing list > > MediaWiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l > > > _______________________________________________ > MediaWiki-l mailing list > MediaWiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l > _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l

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Benjamin Lees

7:08 p.m.

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api.php?action=query&list=querypage&qppage=Wantedcategories&qplimit=5000 will give you the list in a format you can readily convert to just the names. You can then loop over the list of categories in your programming language of choice and run edit.php once for each category. On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Geth N7 <infiltrator7n(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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wrote:

> > add text to these new pages in bulk, but I'm at a loss for how to

create

> > pages in bulk with preselected text. > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 9:57 PM, John <phoenixoverride(a)gmail.com>

wrote:

for

wiki

> > > engine > > > > that did not support categories in the MediaWiki sense), and I

would

like > > to mass add some text to all of these "wanted categories" so they

can

be > > properly indexed. > > > > Is there a way to do this, or will I have to edit all these

categories

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Geth N7

7:27 p.m.

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That sounds like it should work. Thanks! On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Benjamin Lees <emufarmers(a)gmail.com> wrote:

...

how

(if possible) to apply a "wildcard" to the Category: so that it will

batch

create category description pages for every category. On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Geth N7 <infiltrator7n(a)gmail.com>

wrote:

> Thanks! That's exactly what I needed to know. > > > On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Benjamin Lees <emufarmers(a)gmail.com >wrote: > >> It's nothing fancy, but Special:WantedCategories (or, better, its API >> equivalent) will give you the list, and the edit.php maintenance

script,

>> Pywikibot, or the bot framework of your choice will let you create

pages

> from the list. > > > On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 11:48 PM, Geth N7 <infiltrator7n(a)gmail.com>

wrote: >> >> > What I want to do is mass create category description pages for all

>> > these wanted categories. >> > >> > The text would simply be a link to a "master category" that they

would

>> all >> > fall under (for organization purposes). >> > >> > My problem is that bot programs (like AutoWikibrowser) don't seem to >> have >> > the capability to create category description pages since the pages >> don't >> > exist, and since I have thousands of pages to create, I really

wanted

> > add text to these new pages in bulk, but I'm at a loss for how to

create

> > pages in bulk with preselected text. > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 9:57 PM, John <phoenixoverride(a)gmail.com>

wrote:

> > > > > Depends on what kind of text you want to create the page with. > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Geth N7 <infiltrator7n(a)gmail.com

> > wrote: > > > > > > > From what I understand, a category doesn't exist until the page

for

wiki

> > > engine > > > > that did not support categories in the MediaWiki sense), and I

would >> > like >> > > > to mass add some text to all of these "wanted categories" so

they

can > be > > > properly indexed. > > > > > > Is there a way to do this, or will I have to edit all these categories > > > manually? > > > _______________________________________________ > > > MediaWiki-l mailing list > > > MediaWiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > MediaWiki-l mailing list > > MediaWiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l > > > _______________________________________________ > MediaWiki-l mailing list > MediaWiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l > _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l

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Geth N7

9:45 p.m.

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Just wanted to share my solution with everyone else (I use AutoWikiBrowser) 1. I used Benjamin Lees advice about the following api call: api.php?action=query&list= querypage&qppage=Wantedcategories&qplimit=5000 2. I extracted just the category names and saved them is a text file. 3. I logged in to my wiki on AWB, went to the "More" tab, then added some appended text. I then went to the skip page and changed the "Page" settings to "doesn't care" (this is important, otherwise the batch edits will fail since the page doesn't exist) 4. Turned on AWB, set it to bot settings, got myself a cup of coffee and a nice book to read while the bot fills in the blanks. 5. Repeated steps 1 through 3 as often as needed until the rest of the pages were filled in. And that's it. This advice will have to modified if you don't use AWB, but it otherwise works fine for me. On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Geth N7 <infiltrator7n(a)gmail.com> wrote:

...

That sounds like it should work. Thanks! On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Benjamin Lees <emufarmers(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:

how

(if possible) to apply a "wildcard" to the Category: so that it will

batch

create category description pages for every category. On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Geth N7 <infiltrator7n(a)gmail.com>

wrote:

script,

>> Pywikibot, or the bot framework of your choice will let you create

pages

> from the list. > > > On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 11:48 PM, Geth N7 <infiltrator7n(a)gmail.com>

wrote: >> >> > What I want to do is mass create category description pages for

all of

>> > these wanted categories. >> > >> > The text would simply be a link to a "master category" that they

would

>> all >> > fall under (for organization purposes). >> > >> > My problem is that bot programs (like AutoWikibrowser) don't seem

>> have >> > the capability to create category description pages since the pages >> don't >> > exist, and since I have thousands of pages to create, I really

wanted

> > add text to these new pages in bulk, but I'm at a loss for how to

create

> > pages in bulk with preselected text. > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 9:57 PM, John <phoenixoverride(a)gmail.com>

wrote: >> > >> > > Depends on what kind of text you want to create the page with. >> > > >> > > On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Geth N7 <

infiltrator7n(a)gmail.com>

> > wrote: > > > > > > > From what I understand, a category doesn't exist until the page

for >> the >> > > > category is edited, so even if there are categories listed on a >> page, >> > > > unless those categories have been created, they do not actually >> exist >> > > until >> > > > their description pages have been edited. >> > > > >> > > > I ask this because I'm in charge of wiki that has a lot of

blank

> > > categories > > > > (it was created from an XML dump made from content from another

wiki

> > > engine > > > > that did not support categories in the MediaWiki sense), and I

would >> > like >> > > > to mass add some text to all of these "wanted categories" so

they

> can > > be > > > > properly indexed. > > > > > > > > Is there a way to do this, or will I have to edit all these > categories > > > > manually? > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > MediaWiki-l mailing list > > > > MediaWiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > MediaWiki-l mailing list > > > MediaWiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > MediaWiki-l mailing list > > MediaWiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l > > > _______________________________________________ > MediaWiki-l mailing list > MediaWiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l >

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K. Peachey

3:01 a.m.

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On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Geth N7 <infiltrator7n(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Yes the category is "there" and yes, you can see the pages/files/etc that it contains, It is just redlinking because its description doesn't exist yet.

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