Peter Blaise responds: Thanks, Gary, I'm not sure what you mean, though. "... include the Wikipedia: namespace in the search..." by doing what? I searched inside MediaWiki/WikiMedia/Wikipedia and found nothing inside them. They brought up a screen showing Google and Yahoo searches as alternatives since the found nothing. I then clicked on Google. With the exact same search, Google found many MediaWiki/WikiMedia/Wikipedia articles. I was then back in MediaWiki/WikiMedia/Wikipedia from there. I see why Fred suggested Google as a better MediaWiki/WikiMedia/Wikipedia search master, perhaps more so than MediaWiki/WikiMedia/Wikipedia searching within itself. I'm getting the feeling that MediaWiki is w-a-y less mature or sophisticated than it's notoriety and popularity suggests. Peter Blaise responds: Oh. Sorry. I thought shouting was thought of as all caps in the entire message, not just occasional emphasis. I re-read my post and out of my 728 words (thank you MS Word for counting for me) all I capitalized were the words: nowhere, totally unrelated, within, and with - about a 0.007% "shouting". But, if you picked up even those few words as shouting, then even my 5 all-caps words out of my 728 total words is too much. I'll refrain, thanks for the sensitivity training. Seriously. Peter Blaise responds: Oh, I get it, Gary, you're showing me how obnoxious you find it when even MediaWiki SHOUTS (oops!). Got it. I think. Who are the select few here who are not volunteers, who have to help me, presumably for pay? Seriously. I've got questions for them (or anyone): How do you create an admin or sysops after the Wiki's built? ... and, I've got w-a-y more MediaWiki questions at peter.monahon(a)uspto.gov Thank you. - Peter Blaise