Thank you Jake and Patrick!



On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 10:05 PM Jake Orlowitz <jorlowitz@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Rajene!

Wikipedia Library wrote this summary that could easily be turned into a slide or two:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:The_Wikipedia_Library/Cultural_Professionals#Before_you_start:_Conflict_of_interest?

Cheers,
Jake Orlowitz
Wikipedia Library



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Hi All,

Just a change of subject for this email thread.  Next month, my colleague
and I will be introducing Wikipedia to a group of librarians and wanted to
include a slide on conflict of interest and librarians. Is there a policy
or best practice set of guidelines that we can reference and share?

Please let me know,

Thank you,
Rajene


On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 05:30 Kerry Raymond <kerry.raymond@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, unfortunately the way we often promote 1Lib1Ref can leave that
> impression (it’s cleaning-up after some lazy Wikipedians!). There are a
> number of ways to deal with this.
>
>
>
> Firstly explain away “1 Ref”, just say that it’s asking librarians to take
> a first step, and obviously we hope they will do more than 1. Tell them it
> can 1Lib10Ref if they prefer.
>
>
>
> Second, the topic doesn’t have to be random. If the library has a
> particular topic area of interest (probably something they actively collect
> and are proud of), talk to them about adding citations in articles relating
> to that topic area. Now your librarians are exploiting their special
> collection material and their special expertise in that collections. Such
> citations (particularly if they refer to online accessible content on their
> website or at least a catalogue entry) will drive interest in the library
> (and its website). Librarians like that because it provides a way by which
> they can promote their special collection (without crossing the COI
> boundary – remember [[WP:CURATOR]] says it is not COI for a GLAM to do
> edits that relate to the content of the GLAM’s collections).
>
>
>
> The way to work with a special topic  is to **not** use Citation Hunt but
> rather use the tool Petscan to find the articles in their topic of interest
> that need citations
>
>
>
> https://petscan.wmflabs.org/
>
>
>
> with which you can construct a list of articles within a specific category
> tree in Wikipedia (which relates to one of library’s area of interest)
> which are intersected with the tracking category “All articles with
> unsourced statements” (which means the article has a citation-needed
> template in it). Note, that the documentation for most of those “quality”
> tags usually mentions a tracking category (so you can look for other
> quality issues if you want)
>
>
>
> So if your library’s special interests is Egypt, then here’s an example of
> a search for citations needed in Egypt articles
>
>
>
>
> https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?language=en&project=wikipedia&depth=3&categories=Egypt%0D%0AAll%20articles%20with%20unsourced%20statements&ns%5B0%5D=1&search_max_results=500&interface_language=en&active_tab=&doit
> =
>
>
>
> That query (with depth 3) produced 845 articles. But if you want more, try
> depth 4 (1465 results), then 5 (2186 results), etc (the greater the depth,
> the slower the execution, but you probably have more than enough with 845
> possible articles!
>
>
>
> I print these Petscan lists out, and progressively cut them up into some
> single article strips (for the total beginner) and into some larger
> multiple-article strips (for the not-beginner), put them in a “lucky dip”
> box and let people draw out one or a group at random. Or let them choose
> from a single big list (but get them to mark off the one they are doing so
> people aren’t duplicating their effort or creating edit conflicts). Whether
> or not they succeed in finding a citation, throw away that topic after
> their attempt. Don’t let them spend too long on any one topic (there’s
> plenty more articles if one proves difficult). It’s quite OK to focus on
> the easy wins as it is a more positive experience for them and all
> citations added benefit Wikipedia. (Aside, if your expert librarians can’t
> find a citation in their area of special interest, it may be a hint to you
> that maybe it’s time to remove that content from Wikipedia as perhaps no
> citation does exist).
>
>
>
> If adding citations doesn’t appeal, then try away the whole
> citation-needed idea and pursue a “let’s expand articles about your topics
> of interests” or “let’s add photos from your collection” Call it
> 1Lib1Expand or1Lib1Photo if you like. Explain that the campaign is just to
> provide a focus for librarians to engage with Wikipedia. However they want
> to engage is just fine. It’s all improving Wikipedia. Here’s an idea that
> might appeal to other libraries:
>
>
>
> At State Library of Queensland last year, we had a sub-goal for 1Lib1Ref.
> We said to ourselves that public libraries are important civic amenities
>  (and what librarian doesn’t believe that!) and that every public library
> in Queensland therefore should be mentioned in the Wikipedia article for
> that town/suburb/district. So we used
>
>
>
>
> http://www.slq.qld.gov.au/visit-us/find-a-public-library/browse-library-branches
>
>
>
> as our lucky dip list and the pages linked from it and also this master
> spreadsheet of other info about all public libraries as our sources
>
>
>
>
> http://www.plconnect.slq.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0012/388497/SLQ_StatsBulletin1617_20171109.pdf
>
>
>
> to add a few snippets about each public library (cited to the sources
> above). We added the address of the library and who operates it and the
> year it opened and anything special about that library that was worthy of
> mention (e.g. special collections). So just a sentence or two with
> citations. Thanks to 1Lib1Ref, we now have every Qld public library (and
> its mobile libraries stop-off points) mentioned in the relevant Wikipedia
> article. (The only catch is that it turned out that there were places with
> public libraries but without Wikipedia articles – those were handed to me,
> and I created a basic place article, and the library was thrown back in the
> lucky dip jar when I had made the article.) Now the librarians involved
> (about 40 of them who did about 25 edits each on average) really engaged
> well with this; libraries are meaningful to them and so they saw value in
> doing the task. When we finished doing public libraries, we started working
> on lists of Qld schools (education matters to librarians too). I note that
> we do 1Lib1Ref in “editathon” sessions and the librarians enjoy the social
> aspect of that (although people are free to do it at their desks if they
> prefer and many leave the editathon session with some extra lucky dip
> topics saying they will do them at their desk or at home that night). OK,
> this is not “traditional” 1Lib1Ref but let’s call it 1Lib1Lib or
> 1Lib1School J
>
>
>
> So don’t see the format proposed for 1Lib1Ref as a straightjacket. It’s
> just one way to engage librarians and Citation Hunt does provide a set of
> tasks for the individual librarian who might be interested but who isn’t in
> an outreach relationship. But if another way works better for the librarian
> in an outreach situation (and particularly so if you are working with a
> library rather than an individual librarian), then just do it that other
> way. It’s the engagement that matters, not the format. No matter what they
> do, they acquire some Wikipedia skills, which they might continue to use on
> their own or be willing to use in another partnership or campaign. It’s a
> first-step campaign. Once they have taken it, you need to work out what
> step 2, 3, and 4 is for them.
>
>
>
> Kerry
>
>
>
> *“I would like*, if I may, to *take you* on a *strange journey” – Rocky
> Horror Picture Show*
>
>
>
> *From:* Libraries [mailto:libraries-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Paulo Santos Perneta
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 September 2018 10:54 PM
> *To:* libraries@lists.wikimedia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [libraries] Meeting Librarians Soon. Help!
>
>
>
> Last #1lib1ref was not successful here: The librarians we've contacted
> were not interested in fixing references for random articles, and they had
> difficulties on understanding why they should get through all the trouble
> of learning to edit Wikipedia just to fulfill the objective of 1 ref per
> librarian.
>
>
>
> Probably in the next edition we'll be reformulating the contest locally to
> make it more attractive to them.
>
>
>
> Paulo
>
>
>
> Jean-Philippe Béland <jpbeland@wikimedia.ca> escreveu no dia segunda,
> 17/09/2018 à(s) 13:39:
>
> Hello Reem,
>
>
>
> I'm not a librarian, but what worked well with librarians here in Quebec,
> Canada was the #1lib1ref campaign. We organized a little friendly
> competition between different university and institutional libraries and it
> was very successful in my opinion. We also invited students in relevant
> university courses to participate and taught them how to add references to
> Wikipedia. From what I have been told, since last year, the International
> Federation of Library Association (IFLA) is actively supporting the
> cooperation between libraries and WMF projects, especially through
> #1lib1ref. I'm sure there are people more qualified than me on this mailing
> list to explain to you what is #1lib1ref, but you can find information
> about it on Meta-Wiki:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikipedia_Library/1Lib1Ref.
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikipedia_Library/1Lib1Ref>
>
>
>
> Thank you and good luck with your meeting!
>
>
>
> Jean-Philippe Béland
>
> Wikimédia Canada
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 7:23 AM Reem Al-Kashif <reemalkashif@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> Hello,
>
> Hope this finds you well. I didn't plan on meeting librarians at a
> university here in Cairo, Egypt, but they expressed interest in Wikipedia,
> so we are meeting :). The problem is, I really don't know what activities
> to offer them. I have zero experience in Wiki+libraries collaborations. It
> would be more than great if anybody could help me out. What I need is:
> 1. Understanding the nature of librarians work (I know it is a big topic,
> but some general remarks would do).
> 2. Having examples of activities they can be part of to contribute to Wiki
> (be it Wikipedia or Wikimedia).
>
> 3. Understanding how rewarding those activities are (so that I explain to
> them)
> 4. Having examples of similar activities, if any, around the world.
> Bonus  point 5. Having a clear plan of action to give them (i.e. what do
> we do after the meeting and so on)
>
> Thank you so so much in advance for helping me navigate this uncharted
> territory.
>
> Best,
> Reem
>
>
>
> --
>
>
> *Kind regards,Reem Al-Kashif*
>
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