You can watch
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:All_articles_proposed_for_deletion
Cheers,
Peter
From: Gendergap [mailto:gendergap-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Jane Darnell
Sent: Saturday, 07 January 2017 11:13 AM
To: Addressing gender equity and exploring ways to increase the participation of women
within Wikimedia projects.
Subject: Re: [Gendergap] They want to delete First Ladies now?
Thanks for that! I have always wondered about that myself.
On Sat, Jan 7, 2017 at 5:49 AM, Risker <risker.wp(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Well, in fairness, Nell Arthur was never the U.S. First Lady because she died before her
husband became president.
On the other hand, anyone can remove a PROD, and based on what's in the article, it
was a good call to do so. A few years ago, I did a bit of review on the likelihood that
something PRODded would actually get deleted, and about half the time the PROD tags were
removed. As I recall, I looked at about 3-4 days of PRODs so it may not be entirely
representative. On the other hand, on a fair number of occasions the PROD tag was removed
without the core issue being addressed, about 60%. Sometimes the reason was absurd, but
more often it was a justified concern (e.g., absence of reliable sources for key facts or
notability) that was just not addressed. Only a very small percentage (under 5% as I
recall) had the PROD tag removed and then someone took the article to AfD.
Risker/Anne
On 6 January 2017 at 09:52, Johanna-Hypatia Cybeleia <johanna.hypatia(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
It was a bit of a shock to see on Nell Arthur
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nell_Arthur> 's page an imminent threat of
deletion. I wouldn't have thought an article on a First Lady could be so vulnerable.
Somebody is claiming that she has no notability just for being married to the vice
president who became president after her death. It took me about 5 minutes to find RS for
the fact that she was indeed notable and she had everything to do with getting her
husband's political career going. He could not have accomplished what he did without
her.
smh
So I edited that fact in; in fact, I created a new section headed "Political
career." Now I can remove the deletion threat (just in time before the ax falls!),
but I became alarmed: Which other articles on women are under this threat? OK, I'm
biased: I come from the town named after her dad. I couldn't just let her slip away.
Below is the text of the notice, one I haven't seen before, and it has an alarming
red-bordered appearance right up on top of the article, not the talk page.
For equality,
J.Hy
It is <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Proposed_deletion> proposed that
this article be deleted because of the following concern:
Notability is not inherited, and subject only seems to really be known for her marriage to
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chester_A._Arthur> Chester A. Arthur. No indication
of meeting <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(people)>
WP:Notability (people) at all.
If you can address this concern by
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Editing_policy> improving,
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style> copyediting,
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Introduction_to_referencing_with_Wiki_Markup/1>
sourcing, <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Moving_a_page> renaming, or
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Merging> merging the page, please
<https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nell_Arthur&action=edit> edit this
page and do so. You may remove this message if you improve the article or otherwise object
to deletion for any reason. Although not required, you are encouraged to explain why you
object to the deletion, either in your edit summary or on the talk page. If this template
is removed, <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Proposed_deletion#Nominating>
do not replace it.
The article may be deleted if this message remains in place for seven days, i.e., after
06:27, 7 January 2017 (UTC).
If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the
article so that it is acceptable according to the
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_policy> deletion policy.
_____
Nominator: Please consider notifying the author/project: {{
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Substitution> subst:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Proposed_deletion_notify> proposed deletion
notify|Nell Arthur|concern=Notability is not inherited, and subject only seems to really
be known for her marriage to [[Chester A. Arthur]]. No indication of meeting
[[WP:Notability (people)]] at all.}} ~~~~
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