Beria was correct that this list has not had a particularly welcoming
atmosphere to women outside of the US. I would go further and say
that this list has not had a particularly welcoming atmosphere to
anyone in the recent past, regardless of gender or place of residence.
I have hated the idea of having to use technical means of moderation
on this list. I've previously felt and hoped that relying on our
shared humanity and our common desire to ameliorate what is an
incredibly significant problem for the Wikimedia movement - and I
think for the globe - would be enough to restore a safe atmosphere to
this list. It has become clear that this is not the case.
Beria has been unsubscribed from this list, and will remain so for the
indefinite future. This is the first time that any of us have ever
used the listserv admin toolkit, except to remove spambots and for
maintenance work. I hope it will be the last time. But going
forward, I'm no longer okay sacrificing the ability of this list to
have potentially productive discussions just in order to avoid using
technical means of moderation.
We will be moderating this list in a far more aggressive manner moving
forward. We will in almost all situations talk to people ahead of
time, and try to head off problems. We can understand occasional
slip-ups and elevated tensions - we all experience them. But if you
habitually behave in a way that makes other members feel uncomfortable
or otherwise habitually disrupt this list, you will be removed.
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Kevin Gorman
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Sarah Stierch <sarah.stierch(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi everyone,
Beria has been unsubscribed from the list. This was moderator decision, not
just on my end.
Sorry that your email box had to be the victim of this and I hope all of you
- wherever you live, and whatever your gender of choice is, can move beyond
the recent conflict.
From here on out if discussions start to get heated and we fail to live up
to [[WP:CIVIL]] [1] then the moderators will turn whole list moderation on,
and every email will be moderated until the drama llama is calmed.
Let's be grown ups, work together, and celebrate our collective passion for
wanting to "mind the gap" regardless of gender, language and location. (And
let's have fun doing it?! Right?!)
Thanks,
-Sarah
[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Civil
On 8/29/12 8:02 PM, Béria Lima wrote:
I would like to say to the moderator team - especially Sarah who now decided
to create a "WWC" initiative (and I'm now requesting her to change the
name)
- to fuck off and try to do half of what Laura is doing for women in
Wikipedia..
I'm with Laura in this. If this list isn't welcoming to women from outside
USA, it failed the propose to exist. If isn't a safe place for women, it has
no reason to exist.
_____
Béria Lima
Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre
acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a construir
esse sonho.
On 29 August 2012 19:56, Emily Monroe <emilymonroe03(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I would like to thank the mod team for intervening, in any case.
From,
Emily
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Kevin Gorman <kgorman(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I am sorry to see Laura go. Her leaving the list was not requested
by the mod team here, and was not the desired or expected outcome of
my interaction with her. She's welcome back at any point that she
would like to resubscribe.
Sarah and I have recently been approached by people in private
indicating that Laura's posting style has made them uncomfortable
participating in public discussions on this list. After talking with
Sarah, I sent Laura an email asking her to step back and consider if
her messages could make others uncomfortable before sending them out,
and asking her to take into consideration other people's feedback when
they offer it. (She's not the only member who we've sent a similar
message to.)
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Kevin Gorman
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