Along similar lines, this pilot training has been suggested for admins: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Gender-gap_admin_training And The Ada Initiative said they were interested in providing training for such a pilot. WMF grantmakers like myself would be pleased to see something like this develop into a proposal, if folks felt it was worth trying. It might make sense to pilot at the admin level before focusing on functionaries like stewards, because admins have more day-to-day interactions with individual editors (and thus more opportunities to facilitate an on-wiki environment that supports diversity). On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Reguyla &lt;reguyla(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: -- Siko Bouterse Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. sbouterse(a)wikimedia.org *Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. * *Donate <https://donate.wikimedia.org> or click the "edit" button today, and help us make it a reality!*

Kumioko, you can change your gmail preferences to have this list automatically dump to spam if you're not getting a fast enough response to your "unsubscribe". Risker On 12 December 2014 at 14:43, Reguyla &lt;reguyla(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

More likely, it is the fact that none of the moderators happen to be online right now. If you want to leave the list, as is your stated intention, you can go to your own Mailman preferences and decide which lists to unsubscribe without waiting for a moderator. Risker On 12 December 2014 at 14:49, Reguyla &lt;reguyla(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

yes, training could work at wikimania the education foundation and eval. folks had seminars during hackathon, and a track at London https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Programme what would a required list of HR, managment seminars look like? On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Chris Keating &lt;chriskeatingwiki(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

Hi everyone, Please allow me to briefly introduce myself before coming to the point: I am Christina Dinar and I work at Wikimedia Deutschland for 1,5 years now. Originally, I was employed to take care of community projects that address newbies and enhance the diversity in Wikipedia as well other Wikimedia projects. I came with the professional background of doing workshops with young adults in political education, doing diversity trainings in order to address some of their existing social and violent behavioral problems with each other. Somehow it never got to that moment that I could actually offer this knowledge and experience to the German Wikipedia Community–my professional focus here shifted and I started to work in other fields. Coming from this background, I could definitely offer a diversity workshop at Wikimania, for functionaries as well as on the level of introduction as a train-the-trainer. We even have developed diversity guidelines (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Charting_diversity), that theoretically frame the approach on diversity to the specifics of the Wikimedia world. If I get some positive feedback on offering this workshop at Wikimania–ideally not alone but with another interested person–I am not sure what the best way to proceed is: Wait for the submission process, or get in touch with the organizers to ask for a room and time for this special workshop (as others did in the past)? I had drafted a proposal for our diversity conference back in 2013 that we could use and build upon - (it was very general at that time, today I would address more the specfics of WM-movements..): Diversity? Deal with it! – Diversity as a concept has long development in management and especially in human ressource management in order to practically deal with diversity of people coming and working together from different backrounds and levels of knowledge. This 45-min lasting workshop you will actively engage in situations what actually to do and how possibly to act when divers and different opinions, people and backgrounds and communication cultures come together. Different strategies will be developed within the group participants leaving them with set of tools and strategies how to deal with diversity in real life and the online world. I am very much looking forward to hearing your thoughts. Warmly, Christina Christina Dinar Team Communitys Volunteer Support Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 Mobil: +49 17639238378 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. 2014-12-14 23:06 GMT+01:00 Jim Hayes &lt;slowking4(a)gmail.com&gt;om>:

Hi Christina - this sounds very interesting - would you be happy for me to propose it as a possible topic in the Wikimedia Conference, for which I'm on the programme committee? Chris On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Christina Burger < christina.burger(a)wikimedia.de&gt; wrote:

I don't think you were on the Wikimedia Conference programme committee, Sarah - that's the one I was referring to... Wikimania is a different kettle of fish - ideally we'd have something at both :) On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Sarah Stierch &lt;sarah.stierch(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

Oh wait..I was thinking Wikimania. Sorry about that. I don't attend thoe Wikimedia Conferences, so I don't have any influence or uh..well..care :) -Sarah On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 8:15 AM, Risker &lt;risker.wp(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: -- Sarah Stierch ----- Diverse and engaging consulting for your organization. www.sarahstierch.com

Can I suggest that the Wikimedia Conference do a train-the-trainer session with a view to the chapters running sessions locally in addition to the Wikimania session. Not many people get to go to Wikimania so the chapters approach would be more scalable. Kerry _____ From: gendergap-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:gendergap-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Risker Sent: Friday, 19 December 2014 2:16 AM To: Addressing gender equity and exploring ways to increase the participationof women within Wikimedia projects. Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Diversity training for functionaries While it might be suitable as a "pilot" at the Wikimedia Conference (I promise not to harp on the name here), it's a by-invitation conference focused on chapter/affiliate executives, many of whom have very limited on-wiki presence. I'm not persuaded that they're the target audience. In fact, I'd suggest this would probably be best suited to a full-day session targeted at active Wikimedia project administrators and those with higher level permissions (think: oversighters, who frequently deal with requests from women who feel harassed because of gender; checkusers tracking down sockpuppets of harassers, and stewards, who can act in either role on projects that don't have their own CU/OS). There is not much overlap between these active on-wiki leaders and the leaders of chapters/affiliates. Strikes me that this would be more ideal for Wikimania, perhaps as a pre-WM session if that can be arranged. Risker/anne On 18 December 2014 at 11:04, Chris Keating &lt;chriskeatingwiki(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: Hi Christina - this sounds very interesting - would you be happy for me to propose it as a possible topic in the Wikimedia Conference, for which I'm on the programme committee? Chris On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Christina Burger &lt;christina.burger(a)wikimedia.de&gt; wrote: Hi everyone, Please allow me to briefly introduce myself before coming to the point: I am Christina Dinar and I work at Wikimedia Deutschland for 1,5 years now. Originally, I was employed to take care of community projects that address newbies and enhance the diversity in Wikipedia as well other Wikimedia projects. I came with the professional background of doing workshops with young adults in political education, doing diversity trainings in order to address some of their existing social and violent behavioral problems with each other. Somehow it never got to that moment that I could actually offer this knowledge and experience to the German Wikipedia Community–my professional focus here shifted and I started to work in other fields. Coming from this background, I could definitely offer a diversity workshop at Wikimania, for functionaries as well as on the level of introduction as a train-the-trainer. We even have developed diversity guidelines (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Charting_diversity), that theoretically frame the approach on diversity to the specifics of the Wikimedia world. If I get some positive feedback on offering this workshop at Wikimania–ideally not alone but with another interested person–I am not sure what the best way to proceed is: Wait for the submission process, or get in touch with the organizers to ask for a room and time for this special workshop (as others did in the past)? I had drafted a proposal for our diversity conference back in 2013 that we could use and build upon - (it was very general at that time, today I would address more the specfics of WM-movements..): Diversity? Deal with it! – Diversity as a concept has long development in management and especially in human ressource management in order to practically deal with diversity of people coming and working together from different backrounds and levels of knowledge. This 45-min lasting workshop you will actively engage in situations what actually to do and how possibly to act when divers and different opinions, people and backgrounds and communication cultures come together. Different strategies will be developed within the group participants leaving them with set of tools and strategies how to deal with diversity in real life and the online world. I am very much looking forward to hearing your thoughts. Warmly, Christina Christina Dinar Team Communitys Volunteer Support Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 Mobil: +49 <tel:%2B49%2017639238378> 17639238378 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. 2014-12-14 23:06 GMT+01:00 Jim Hayes &lt;slowking4(a)gmail.com&gt;om>: yes, training could work at wikimania the education foundation and eval. folks had seminars during hackathon, and a track at London https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Programme what would a required list of HR, managment seminars look like? On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Chris Keating &lt;chriskeatingwiki(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: I've added myself to the list of interested people :) Thinking out loud, would that kind of thing work in person at the Wikimedia Conference and/or Wikimania? On 12 Dec 2014 19:33, "Siko Bouterse" &lt;sbouterse(a)wikimedia.org&gt; wrote: Along similar lines, this pilot training has been suggested for admins: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Gender-gap_admin_training And The Ada Initiative said they were interested in providing training for such a pilot. WMF grantmakers like myself would be pleased to see something like this develop into a proposal, if folks felt it was worth trying. It might make sense to pilot at the admin level before focusing on functionaries like stewards, because admins have more day-to-day interactions with individual editors (and thus more opportunities to facilitate an on-wiki environment that supports diversity). On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Reguyla &lt;reguyla(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: I think this might be a good idea but it would be pretty hard to implement and I think, unnecessary. Most of the functionaries got to where they are because they have a calm demeanor and generally are fair in how they treat others. Additionally, its not usually the functionaries who are the problem. So without requiring the editors to perform the diversity training, I'm not sure how much it would help. On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Chris Keating &lt;chriskeatingwiki(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: Don't know if this has been floated before - apologies if so - but: Part of the problem we have is the sheer depth of ignorance among otherwise well-intentioned community members. This depth of ignorance is naturally shared by the people who play leadership roles in the community. So we end up with stewards, arbitrators and bureaucrats who potentially end up reinforcing the gender gap problem because they just have no clue how the structure they maintain can sometimes be a tool to exclude people. How about offering some form of diversity training to functionaries to help broaden perspectives and raise understanding? Obviously, from the point of view of supporting them to do their difficult and fairly thankless roles better, rather than beating them with diversity sticks. It could happen (indeed, WMF could make it happen with some volunteer input); could it help? Chris _______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap _______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap -- Siko Bouterse Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. sbouterse(a)wikimedia.org Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. 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