Thanks Ryan.

I don't think I know who you mean though, from memory there were quite a few who fell into the porn = feminism school of thought (sex-positive feminism or third-wave feminism). The one person I thought you might mean has posted edits within the last few weeks so it can't be them.

It's hard to remember now but I think it was possibly the combination of comments from members and also some of the articles listed in the feminism portal with GA status that I found off-putting, particularly as it had been suggested to me as, "Oh, you should go there."

Articles with GA status:
> Batgirl (and also a second article on Barbara Gordon)
> Belle (Disney - complete with picture of Belle in ball gown and holding a flower)
> Beyoncé
> "Can't Hold Us Down" (Christina Aguilera, raunch culture track)
> "The Dirty Picture" (read the plot and then tell me Silk is the film / poster for the film is "portraying women as powerful" as described in the article's opening paragraph)
> "Government Hooker" (a song by Lady Gaga about John F. Kennedy's affair with Marilyn Monroe, lyrics include "I'm gonna drink my tears and cry / 'cos I know you love me baby")
> Independent Women's Forum (quote from article "IWF-affiliated writers have argued that the gender gap in income exists because of women's greater demand for flexibility, fewer hours, and less travel in their careers, rather than because of sexism")
> Lara Croft (male fantasy figure)
> "Love, Loss, and What I Wore" (play - the plot sounds like the opposite of feminism)
> Madonna
> Tara Teng (Miss World 2012)
> Xue Susu (a Chinese courtesan).

Anyway, as a start I've divided the list of members on WikiProject Feminism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Feminism/Members between those who - have / have not - contributed to Wikipedia since 1 January 2013 (and updated the url link to take account of the change). That leaves the project with 147 active members.

The process gave me a glimpse of the interests / articles that members are editing, it was quite telling how many listed their interests / studies as: human development / human capabilities / African Diaspora / psychology / economics / poverty related (in particulary students on the Poverty, Justice, and Human Capabilities PJHC course at Rice University). I also found Wikipedian in Residence Sydney Poore (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:FloNight/FAQ_WiR ), perhaps useful? (I counted eight of the 147 who might reasonably be described as sex-positive feminists or third-wave feminists, which isn't really all that many https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex-positive_feminism ).

Marie


Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 10:46:52 -0700
From: rkaldari@wikimedia.org
To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Wikiproject? ...Threads on various issues

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Marie Earley <eiryel@hotmail.com> wrote:
A subpage in an existing project would be one idea but please not the Feminism project. I was invited to it very early on by well meaning editors as a place for such discussions but found sex-positive feminists who think female porn stars are the definition of female empowerment.

Hi Marie,
I believe you're referring to a particular editor who hasn't participated there since about a year ago. I totally understand if you felt put off by your interactions with them. You might want to consider checking out the project again though since we could always use more informed, thoughtful voices such as yours.

Cheers,
Ryan

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