On Feb 26, 2014 12:26 PM, "Jane Darnell" <jane023@gmail.com> wrote:

Lennart,
That is interesting, because I thought there were at least a few
editor surveys to compare results, but apparently not. The only thing
I could find was a page on meta that points to the 2011 survey here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Editor_Survey

The Dutch Wikimedia chapter subcontracted a survey last year but those
results can be used against the English Wikipedia one I don't think.
It's too bad that conducting surveys is so expensive, because this
could be a useful tool for all sorts of key performance indicators.

Good luck, and I am looking forward to whatever you come up with.
Jane

2014-02-26 17:11 GMT+01:00, Lennart Guldbrandsson <l_guldbrandsson@hotmail.com>:
> Totally agree, Sarah, with your final point, and thanks for all the other
> tips.
>
> It seems my initial point, which can be stated as "little effect so far"
> stands, but needs to be qualified somewhat. I'll get right on it, and give
> you guys and gals a link when the whole text is published.
>
> Thanks, everybody for your help.
>
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Lennart Guldbrandsson
>
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> "Tänk dig en värld där varje människa på den här planeten får fri tillgång
> till världens samlade kunskap. Det är vårt mål."
>
>
> Jimmy Wales
>
> Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 08:06:16 -0800
> From: sarah.stierch@gmail.com
> To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Help: Research on whether we have made
> any   difference?
>
> Yes, the Teahouse project has some data to back it up. You can talk to
> Jonathan Morgan, who co-build the space and was the lead in pulling data if
> you need to: jmorgan@wikimedia.org
>
> Laura Hale has been doing some interesting research about the top
> contributors to English Wikipedia and who write about women's subjects. It's
> rather depressing, of course. laura@fanhistory.com
>
> The research work the Program Evaluation and Design team did about
> edit-a-thons and workshops shows little to no retention, which is no
> surprise, really. But, that was not gender specific. My own personal
> research showed the same, with womencentric events.
>
> But, that doesn't mean a dent hasn't been made. Yes, the Education program
> happens to have a lot of women who contribute, especially successes in
> Arabic Wikipedia, but, outside of that specific program, the goal isn't to
> retain, it's to improve content.
>
> I suggest people look at the improvement of "women centric" content versus
> the retention of women editors. The nut still hasn't been cracked (puns so
> not intended) on user retention through events, etc.
>
> We did discover that a lot of content gets created via edit-a-thons and such
> events, versus the amount of people who stay on as editors.
> Don't rule out press and the attention the movement has received on the
> subject. If you look at the partnerships - hell, the UK government basically
> said "uh hello, we need more women in science on Wikipedia," last week.
> Awareness is just one component of "making a difference."
>
> -Sarah
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 6:00 AM, Lennart Guldbrandsson
> <l_guldbrandsson@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Thank you, Pete,
>
> I will take a look at those also. They seem to concur with other studies of
> percentage of the sexes studying.
>
>
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Lennart Guldbrandsson
>
>
> 070 - 207 80 05
> http://www.elementx.se - arbete
> http://www.mrchapel.wordpress.com - personlig blogg
>
>
>
> Presentation
> @aliasHannibal - på Twitter
>
>
> "Tänk dig en värld där varje människa på den här planeten får fri tillgång
> till världens samlade kunskap. Det är vårt mål."
>
>
>
> Jimmy Wales
>
> Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 05:43:02 -0800
> From: peteforsyth@gmail.com
> To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org
>
> Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Help: Research on whether we have made
> any   difference?
>
> Lennart,
>
> You should look at the Education Program, which after the first year
> appeared to have a strong impact (i.e. more participation from women than
> men).
>
>
> It's also been my experience (anecdotal but strong) that the Writing
> Wikipedia Articles course I teach has attracted and retained more women than
> men. (This would not impact the general numbers in a signiificant way, but
> might offer insights into what kinds of activity *would* impact the
> numbers.)
>
>
>
> Pete
> [[User:Peteforsyth]]
> www.wikistrategies.net
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 5:37 AM, Risker <risker.wp@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I do not think it will be possible to accurately assess any impact of
> specific actions, for multiple reasons.  The most relevant one, however, is
> the fact that the WMF itself has not done any broad-scale editor surveys in
> a very long time, nor have individual communities to the best of my
> knowledge.
>
>
>  Risker/Anne
>
> On 26 February 2014 05:37, Lennart Guldbrandsson
> <l_guldbrandsson@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I am writing a short (1500 word) text for the journal of current cultural
> research, Culture Unbound (http://www.cultureunbound.ep.liu.se/index.html),
> to be published in April. The topic touches quite heavily on the gendergap
> issue. I have tried to find any numbers on whether the initiatives -
> editathons, Teahouse, etc - have made any dent in the numbers. Are there any
> such numbers or have I simply fantasized about it?
>
>
>
>
> Since they want the text soon, please respond soon. Any assistance is
> greatly appreciated.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Lennart Guldbrandsson
>
> 070 - 207 80 05
> http://www.elementx.se - arbete
>
>
>
> http://www.mrchapel.wordpress.com - personlig blogg
>
>
>
>
>
> Presentation
> @aliasHannibal - på Twitter
>
>
>
>
> "Tänk dig en värld där varje människa på den här planeten får fri tillgång
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>
>
>
>
>
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