Any thoughts on having a gender gap or women's outreach IRC channel?
I think it'd be nice to have an open hang out for those interested (of any
gender) to participate in not only conversation, but, have live action
dialogue about articles of concern and so forth.
Or is that opening a can of worms that shouldn't be opened?
I like the idea, but, if it'd be just me sitting in a room by
myself...that'd be no fun!
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Clearly the arguments here are a rehashing of two different versions
of feminist action - and both have been successful in winning rights
and opportunities for women in the Western world. Which you prefer
often comes down to a philosophical difference about "essentialism" -
do you believe that women are essentially different than men? As that
question is unresolvable on this list, I suggest we turn to practical
questions to resolve this issue.
1) Since we cannot know contributors' sex for certain (and thus
predict their reactions based on any kind of essentialist philosophy),
I am unconvinced that forking the list would be effective in the way
that such groups have been for the feminist movement already.
2) Since the number of people in the Wikipedia community who want to
work on this problem is small, we should work together until such time
as multiple groups are even feasible. Too much fracturing diffuses the
impact we can make.
3) Many women react in ways that are just as sexist as men. Some of
the most damaging sexism I have seen on Wikipedia came from female
editors. We should not exclude male voices based on the assumption
that they could be sexist but allow any female voice.
My two cents.
Adrianne (User:Awadewit)
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Hi Fred,
Increased [[Laurence Alma-Tadema]] in size from a one-liner to a respectable
stub (discounting the list of her works) with two references. This is about
all I could find about her from Google, Books, Scholars. Rest of the
references are behind copyrighted/pay walls. Sources routinely mispell her
father's name which is [[Lawrence Alma-Tadema]] who was a famous painter
more notable than his daughter and these links adulterate any search on her
name.
Hope this helps.
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur
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Hi everyone,
I recently created a scoop.it for Women and Wikimedia.
http://www.scoop.it/t/women-and-wikimedia
Feel free to email me directly if I'm missing something or if you're own
language has content worth sharing through it. :)
Also, this weeks *Signpost* is featuring Women and Wikipedia as its
headline:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2011-08-15/Women_…
I'm serving as the Wikipedian in Residence at the Archives of American Art
this summer, and I've been doing a lot of writing about female artists. I
recently edited an article about the Woman's
Building<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woman%27s_Building>,
a feminist art school and collective that was a catalyst for the feminist
art scene in the 1970s-80s. While writing the article, I started to create
a list of women who participated in the Building. I realized the majority
were not on Wikipedia, and a large portion of them are notable (in the
art/music/literary scenes). So, I created this list on my userspace:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SarahStierch/Women%27s_artists_without_ar…
So for all those folks who believe there is little content to be contributed
to Wikipedia, I ask you to take a look at these red links. :D And perhaps
contribute an article!
Go team!
-Sarah
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Wikipedia editors,
Can someone look into Danese's pages please?
She probably wouldn't mind if someone contacted her directly to find out
more.
- Susan Spencer Conklin
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From: Danese Cooper <danese(a)gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: Knitters and Coders: separated at birth?
To: Mackenzie Morgan <macoafi(a)gmail.com>
Cc: debian-women <debian-women(a)lists.debian.org>
danese on Ravelry, as in life ;-). I've written quite a lot about knitting
in public, although for some reason the Wikipedia community won't leave
those references on my page :-(.
D
On Apr 13, 2011, at 8:04 AM, Mackenzie Morgan <macoafi(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> 2011/4/13 Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso <jordigh(a)octave.org>:
>> This is a cute blog post:
>>
>> http://www.cs4fn.org/regularexpressions/knitters.php
>>
>> I know some of you knit, so perhaps you'll find this amusing. Btw, any
>> Debianistas on Ravelry? I'm JordiGH there.
>
> I'm macoafi on Ravelry, and I wrote a blog post about crochet & coding
> & reverse engineering a bit ago:
>
http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com/2010/10/algorithms-reverse-engine…
>
> (more of an Ubuntu person here, but I do maintain a couple Debian
packages...)
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Hi Aaron and everyone,
This is a really painful thing for me to read. As a scholar, my research
work has been based around the representation of Indigenous peoples of
North America in media and culture. I sincerely doubt that any of the
"tribal members" I know would say that this is a valid work that would
showcase their Indigenous cultures as anything but another stereotype.
Just as I'm sure some women of Tahiti today would question the relevance
today of Gauguin's paintings which often showcased nude or partially
nude Tahitian women - art revered by both genders and the Western art
world. However, I'm not seeking to speak on behalf of these individuals
and communities, nor am I hear to discuss the creators goal or context
with this featured image. It's more of the fact that /this/ is
considered a choice for the featured front page and the concern that it
has given me as a female contributor to Wikipedia, Wikimedia Commons, etc.
You also stated that you do not want to compromise "our core values just
to try to close a "gap" that some feel is such a big issue, if it even
exists."
This gap does exist, in fact an entire mailing list (which I have cc'd
here and I encourage anyone interested in the topic to join) was created
to work towards bridging this gap. This was triggered by an article
titled "Define Gender Gap? Look Up Wikipedia's Contributor List" by Noam
Cohen, published Jan 30 2011 in /The New York Times/:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/31/business/media/31link.html
A great and interesting conversation took place by NYT to reflect on
this situation, which you can read here:
http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2011/02/02/where-are-the-women-in-wiki…
I do hope that perhaps those two articles can show you that there /is /a
problem, and there are many concerned Wikipedians of all genders, skin
tones, and identities aiming to change that. That is when images like
this deter us from our expansive mission to be more inclusive.
And this has nothing to do with me being "sensitive to toplessness" -
you don't know anything about my lifestyle or character to assume that,
regardless of where I live or where I was born.
#wikilove,
Sarah
On 5/15/2011 10:53 PM, Aaron Adrignola wrote:
> Commons is not censored. It's a beautiful scene and it would be
> expected that the an imaginary tribal member would not have the
> American sensitivities to toplessness. Some images may offend. Some
> articles may offend. We're not going to compromise our core values
> just to try to close a "gap" that some feel is such a big issue, if it
> even exists.
>
> On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 9:31 PM, CherianTinu Abraham
> <tinucherian(a)gmail.com <mailto:tinucherian@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> FYI
>
> Regards
> Tinu Cherian
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> <mailto:sarah@sarahstierch.com>>
> Date: Mon, May 16, 2011 at 7:33 AM
> Subject: [Gendergap] Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons
> To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects
> <gendergap(a)lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org>>
>
>
> Surely I'm not the only one who noticed this lovely gem of a photo
> of the day today. In my work environment - NFWS.
>
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
>
> Direct link to image:
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:On_the_edge_-_free_world_version.jpg
>
> I mean really? /facepalm
>
> This is the kind of imagery I have no desire to see on the front
> page of Commons. I'm a very liberal person, but, this makes me not
> want to even allow my MOTHER to use Commons.
>
> #wikilove,
>
> Sarah
>
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Really nice video about the research work the team at the University of
Minnesota did recently about the gender gap:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=of93QwXixJg
On a selfish note, *The Three
Graces*<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Three_Graces_%28Indianapolis%29>,
an article that was written as part of the Wikiproject: Public Art college
assignment projects is featured on it. I believe this article was written by
a female student (waiting for confirmation from a colleague). I spoke at
Wikimania about how the majority of the new editors and articles written for
WP Public Art through our college program are women. :)
And it does make me snicker that both of those interviewed are men. ;D
-Sarah
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Hi everyone,
Sorry I didn't get this email out a bit sooner, I have switched this mailing
list to be associated with my main email address.
I wrote up a review of the WikiChix lunch at Wikimania 2011.
http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiChix_Lunch_2011
A great experience as always, and I wish I had more time to connect with
more of the Wiki-Women while I was at Wikimania. Soon enough, I hope! :)
-Sarah
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