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##- Please type your reply above this line -## [Wikimedia Foundation] Update: Re: Justine, I’ll keep it short You are registered as a cc on this help desk request and are thus receiving email notifications on all updates to the request. Reply to this email to add a comment to the request. ---------------------------------------------- Pine W, Dec 11 11:21 AM Hi Donor services, I'm confused. EE is a public email list. Why would a donor's name and email content be sent here? Did the donor consent to this? Also, what was the purpose of sending this email to EE? This appears to have been some kind of mistake. Thanks, Pine ---------------------------------------------- Andrey Valkov, Dec 11 05:50 AM Hi Justine, Thank you for your email. The Wikimedia Foundation does not actually manage or contribute to the editorial content of Wikipedia or our other projects. We are here primarily to provide infrastructure and support the tens of thousands of volunteers around the world who edit and contribute everyday. If you need help with an edit, you'd want to email info(a)wikimedia.org. This email address is answered by longtime project volunteers, and they can help with your question. Sincerely, Andrey Valkov Donor Services Associate Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. wikimediafoundation.org Support us! https://donate.wikimedia.org ---------------------------------------------- Justine Tenzeldam, Dec 05 12:30 PM OK. I'll consider a donation. And, if Wikipedia Editors can become more helpful and accommodating to folks like me, perhaps I'll consider more! (Trying to participate is downright painful right now.) Best Regards,Justine tenZeldam510.447.9435 (talk/txt)www.solongsuburbs.comwww.justine.webstarts.comwww.twitter.com/just… On Friday, December 5, 2014 10:34 AM, "Jimmy Wales, Wikipedia" <donate(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: #yiv5329025495 p {margin:1em 0;}#yiv5329025495 #yiv5329025495outlook a{padding:0;}#yiv5329025495 .yiv5329025495ReadMsgBody{width:100%;}#yiv5329025495 .yiv5329025495ExternalClass{width:100%;}#yiv5329025495 body{}#yiv5329025495 .yiv5329025495appleLinks a {color:rgb(0, 0, 0);text-decoration:none;} Dear Justine, Thank you for helping keep Wikipedia online and ad-free. I’m sure you’re busy, so I’ll get right to it. We need your help again this year. Please help us forget about fundraising and get back to improving Wikipedia. If all our past donors simply gave again today, we wouldn't have to worry about fundraising for the rest of the year. We are the small non-profit that runs one of the top 10 websites in the world. We only have about 200 staff but serve 500 million users, and have costs like any other top site: servers, power, programs, and people. Wikipedia is something special. It is like a library or a public park. It is like a temple for the mind, a place we can all go to think and learn. To protect our independence, we'll never run ads. We take no government funds. We survive on donations from our readers. Now is the time we ask. If Wikipedia is useful to you, please take one minute to keep it online and ad-free another year. https://donate.wikimedia.org Thanks, Jimmy Wales Wikipedia Founder | | DONATE NOW » | | You are receiving this email at justinejobsearch(a)gmail.com as a valued donor of the Wikimedia Foundation. If you do not wish to receive any future emails from the Wikimedia Foundation, unsubscribe instantly. Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. P.O. Box 98204 Washington, DC 20090-8204 United States of America enUS14 -------------------------------- This email is a service from Wikimedia Foundation. [8G43-DP57]

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2:29 p.m.

New subject: [EE] [Wikimedia Foundation] Update: Re: Justine, I’ll keep it short

Hm, is the donate@ email address automatically forwarding emails to EE? If so, this is a problem. Can someone look into this ASAP? Pine On Dec 11, 2014 11:22 AM, <donate(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:

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##- Please type your reply above this line -## You are registered as a cc on this help desk request and are thus receiving email notifications on all updates to the request. Reply to this email to add a comment to the request. ------------------------------ *Pine W, Dec 11 11:21 AM:* Hi Donor services, I'm confused. EE is a public email list. Why would a donor's name and email content be sent here? Did the donor consent to this? Also, what was the purpose of sending this email to EE? This appears to have been some kind of mistake. Thanks, Pine ------------------------------ *Andrey Valkov, Dec 11 05:50 AM:* Hi Justine, Thank you for your email. The Wikimedia Foundation does not actually manage or contribute to the editorial content of Wikipedia or our other projects. We are here primarily to provide infrastructure and support the tens of thousands of volunteers around the world who edit and contribute everyday. If you need help with an edit, you'd want to email info(a)wikimedia.org. This email address is answered by longtime project volunteers, and they can help with your question. Sincerely, Andrey Valkov Donor Services Associate Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. wikimediafoundation.org Support us! https://donate.wikimedia.org ------------------------------ *Justine Tenzeldam, Dec 05 12:30 PM:* OK. I'll consider a donation. And, if Wikipedia Editors can become more helpful and accommodating to folks like me, perhaps I'll consider more! (Trying to participate is downright painful right now.) Best Regards,Justine tenZeldam510.447.9435 (talk/txt) www.solongsuburbs.comwww.justine.webstarts.comwww.twitter.com/justinetzwww.… On Friday, December 5, 2014 10:34 AM, "Jimmy Wales, Wikipedia" < donate(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: #yiv5329025495 p {margin:1em 0;}#yiv5329025495 #yiv5329025495outlook a{padding:0;}#yiv5329025495 .yiv5329025495ReadMsgBody{width:100%;}#yiv5329025495 .yiv5329025495ExternalClass{width:100%;}#yiv5329025495 body{}#yiv5329025495 .yiv5329025495appleLinks a {color:rgb(0, 0, 0);text-decoration:none;} Dear Justine, Thank you for helping keep Wikipedia online and ad-free. I’m sure you’re busy, so I’ll get right to it. We need your help again this year. Please help us forget about fundraising and get back to improving Wikipedia. If all our past donors simply gave again today, we wouldn't have to worry about fundraising for the rest of the year. We are the small non-profit that runs one of the top 10 websites in the world. We only have about 200 staff but serve 500 million users, and have costs like any other top site: servers, power, programs, and people. Wikipedia is something special. It is like a library or a public park. It is like a temple for the mind, a place we can all go to think and learn. To protect our independence, we'll never run ads. We take no government funds. We survive on donations from our readers. Now is the time we ask. If Wikipedia is useful to you, please take one minute to keep it online and ad-free another year. https://donate.wikimedia.org Thanks, Jimmy Wales Wikipedia Founder | | DONATE NOW » | | You are receiving this email at justinejobsearch(a)gmail.com as a valued donor of the Wikimedia Foundation. If you do not wish to receive any future emails from the Wikimedia Foundation, unsubscribe instantly. Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. P.O. Box 98204 Washington, DC 20090-8204 United States of America enUS14 *Pine W, Dec 11 11:21 AM:* Hi Donor services, I'm confused. EE is a public email list. Why would a donor's name and email content be sent here? Did the donor consent to this? Also, what was the purpose of sending this email to EE? This appears to have been some kind of mistake. Thanks, Pine ------------------------------ *Andrey Valkov, Dec 11 05:50 AM:* Hi Justine, Thank you for your email. The Wikimedia Foundation does not actually manage or contribute to the editorial content of Wikipedia or our other projects. We are here primarily to provide infrastructure and support the tens of thousands of volunteers around the world who edit and contribute everyday. If you need help with an edit, you'd want to email info(a)wikimedia.org. This email address is answered by longtime project volunteers, and they can help with your question. Sincerely, Andrey Valkov Donor Services Associate Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. wikimediafoundation.org Support us! https://donate.wikimedia.org ------------------------------ *Justine Tenzeldam, Dec 05 12:30 PM:* OK. I'll consider a donation. And, if Wikipedia Editors can become more helpful and accommodating to folks like me, perhaps I'll consider more! (Trying to participate is downright painful right now.) Best Regards,Justine tenZeldam510.447.9435 (talk/txt) www.solongsuburbs.comwww.justine.webstarts.comwww.twitter.com/justinetzwww.… On Friday, December 5, 2014 10:34 AM, "Jimmy Wales, Wikipedia" < donate(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: #yiv5329025495 p {margin:1em 0;}#yiv5329025495 #yiv5329025495outlook a{padding:0;}#yiv5329025495 .yiv5329025495ReadMsgBody{width:100%;}#yiv5329025495 .yiv5329025495ExternalClass{width:100%;}#yiv5329025495 body{}#yiv5329025495 .yiv5329025495appleLinks a {color:rgb(0, 0, 0);text-decoration:none;} Dear Justine, Thank you for helping keep Wikipedia online and ad-free. I’m sure you’re busy, so I’ll get right to it. We need your help again this year. Please help us forget about fundraising and get back to improving Wikipedia. If all our past donors simply gave again today, we wouldn't have to worry about fundraising for the rest of the year. We are the small non-profit that runs one of the top 10 websites in the world. We only have about 200 staff but serve 500 million users, and have costs like any other top site: servers, power, programs, and people. Wikipedia is something special. It is like a library or a public park. It is like a temple for the mind, a place we can all go to think and learn. To protect our independence, we'll never run ads. We take no government funds. We survive on donations from our readers. Now is the time we ask. If Wikipedia is useful to you, please take one minute to keep it online and ad-free another year. https://donate.wikimedia.org Thanks, Jimmy Wales Wikipedia Founder | | DONATE NOW » | | You are receiving this email at justinejobsearch(a)gmail.com as a valued donor of the Wikimedia Foundation. If you do not wish to receive any future emails from the Wikimedia Foundation, unsubscribe instantly. Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. P.O. Box 98204 Washington, DC 20090-8204 United States of America enUS14 This email is a service from Wikimedia Foundation. Message-Id:8G43DP57_5489eed0bf993_5c243ff0158cd328236197_sprut _______________________________________________ EE mailing list EE(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/ee

Tilman Bayer

4:16 p.m.

New subject: [Wikimedia Foundation] Update: Re: Justine, I'll keep it short

Hi Pine, Mailman mailing lists have online archives. Looking at https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/ee/2014-December/date.html , it appears unlikely that donate@ automatically forwards to this list. And: I know you're just trying to help, but before CC'ing various busy people who have nothing to do with this issue (why not include Lila too?), please do some more research on who might have. Thank you! On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:29 AM, Pine W <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Hm, is the donate@ email address automatically forwarding emails to EE? If so, this is a problem. Can someone look into this ASAP? Pine On Dec 11, 2014 11:22 AM, <donate(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: > ##- Please type your reply above this line -## > > You are registered as a cc on this help desk request and are thus > receiving email notifications on all updates to the request. > Reply to this email to add a comment to the request. > > ------------------------------ > > *Pine W, Dec 11 11:21 AM:* > > Hi Donor services, > > I'm confused. EE is a public email list. Why would a donor's name and > email content be sent here? Did the donor consent to this? Also, what was > the purpose of sending this email to EE? This appears to have been some > kind of mistake. > > Thanks, > Pine > > ------------------------------ > > *Andrey Valkov, Dec 11 05:50 AM:* > > Hi Justine, > > Thank you for your email. > > The Wikimedia Foundation does not actually manage or contribute to the > editorial content of Wikipedia or our other projects. We are here primarily > to provide infrastructure and support the tens of thousands of volunteers > around the world who edit and contribute everyday. If you need help with an > edit, you'd want to email info(a)wikimedia.org. This email address is > answered by longtime project volunteers, and they can help with your > question. > > Sincerely, > > Andrey Valkov > Donor Services Associate > Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. > wikimediafoundation.org > Support us! https://donate.wikimedia.org > > ------------------------------ > > *Justine Tenzeldam, Dec 05 12:30 PM:* > > OK. I'll consider a donation. And, if Wikipedia Editors can become more > helpful and accommodating to folks like me, perhaps I'll consider more! > (Trying to participate is downright painful right now.) Best > Regards,Justine tenZeldam510.447.9435 (talk/txt) > www.solongsuburbs.comwww.justine.webstarts.comwww.twitter.com/justinetzwww.… > > On Friday, December 5, 2014 10:34 AM, "Jimmy Wales, Wikipedia" < > donate(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: > > #yiv5329025495 p {margin:1em 0;}#yiv5329025495 #yiv5329025495outlook > a{padding:0;}#yiv5329025495 > .yiv5329025495ReadMsgBody{width:100%;}#yiv5329025495 > .yiv5329025495ExternalClass{width:100%;}#yiv5329025495 body{}#yiv5329025495 > .yiv5329025495appleLinks a {color:rgb(0, 0, 0);text-decoration:none;} Dear > Justine, Thank you for helping keep Wikipedia online and ad-free. I'm sure > you're busy, so I'll get right to it. We need your help again this year. > Please help us forget about fundraising and get back to improving > Wikipedia. If all our past donors simply gave again today, we wouldn't have > to worry about fundraising for the rest of the year. We are the small > non-profit that runs one of the top 10 websites in the world. We only have > about 200 staff but serve 500 million users, and have costs like any other > top site: servers, power, programs, and people. Wikipedia is something > special. It is like a library or a public park. It is like a temple for the > mind, a place we can all go to think and learn. To protect our > independence, we'll never run ads. We take no government funds. We survive > on donations from our readers. Now is the time we ask. If Wikipedia is > useful to you, please take one minute to keep it online and ad-free another > year. https://donate.wikimedia.org Thanks, > Jimmy Wales > Wikipedia Founder > | > | DONATE NOW >> | > > | > > You are receiving this email at justinejobsearch(a)gmail.com as a valued > donor of the Wikimedia Foundation. If you do not wish to receive any future > emails from the Wikimedia Foundation, unsubscribe instantly. Wikimedia > Foundation, Inc. > P.O. Box 98204 > Washington, DC 20090-8204 > United States of America enUS14 > > *Pine W, Dec 11 11:21 AM:* > > Hi Donor services, > > I'm confused. EE is a public email list. Why would a donor's name and > email content be sent here? Did the donor consent to this? Also, what was > the purpose of sending this email to EE? This appears to have been some > kind of mistake. > > Thanks, > Pine > > ------------------------------ > > *Andrey Valkov, Dec 11 05:50 AM:* > > Hi Justine, > > Thank you for your email. > > The Wikimedia Foundation does not actually manage or contribute to the > editorial content of Wikipedia or our other projects. We are here primarily > to provide infrastructure and support the tens of thousands of volunteers > around the world who edit and contribute everyday. If you need help with an > edit, you'd want to email info(a)wikimedia.org. This email address is > answered by longtime project volunteers, and they can help with your > question. > > Sincerely, > > Andrey Valkov > Donor Services Associate > Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. > wikimediafoundation.org > Support us! https://donate.wikimedia.org > > ------------------------------ > > *Justine Tenzeldam, Dec 05 12:30 PM:* > > OK. I'll consider a donation. And, if Wikipedia Editors can become more > helpful and accommodating to folks like me, perhaps I'll consider more! > (Trying to participate is downright painful right now.) Best > Regards,Justine tenZeldam510.447.9435 (talk/txt) > www.solongsuburbs.comwww.justine.webstarts.comwww.twitter.com/justinetzwww.… > > On Friday, December 5, 2014 10:34 AM, "Jimmy Wales, Wikipedia" < > donate(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: > > #yiv5329025495 p {margin:1em 0;}#yiv5329025495 #yiv5329025495outlook > a{padding:0;}#yiv5329025495 > .yiv5329025495ReadMsgBody{width:100%;}#yiv5329025495 > .yiv5329025495ExternalClass{width:100%;}#yiv5329025495 body{}#yiv5329025495 > .yiv5329025495appleLinks a {color:rgb(0, 0, 0);text-decoration:none;} Dear > Justine, Thank you for helping keep Wikipedia online and ad-free. I'm sure > you're busy, so I'll get right to it. We need your help again this year. > Please help us forget about fundraising and get back to improving > Wikipedia. If all our past donors simply gave again today, we wouldn't have > to worry about fundraising for the rest of the year. We are the small > non-profit that runs one of the top 10 websites in the world. We only have > about 200 staff but serve 500 million users, and have costs like any other > top site: servers, power, programs, and people. Wikipedia is something > special. It is like a library or a public park. It is like a temple for the > mind, a place we can all go to think and learn. To protect our > independence, we'll never run ads. We take no government funds. We survive > on donations from our readers. Now is the time we ask. If Wikipedia is > useful to you, please take one minute to keep it online and ad-free another > year. https://donate.wikimedia.org Thanks, > Jimmy Wales > Wikipedia Founder > | > | DONATE NOW >> | > > | > > You are receiving this email at justinejobsearch(a)gmail.com as a valued > donor of the Wikimedia Foundation. If you do not wish to receive any future > emails from the Wikimedia Foundation, unsubscribe instantly. Wikimedia > Foundation, Inc. > P.O. Box 98204 > Washington, DC 20090-8204 > United States of America enUS14 > This email is a service from Wikimedia Foundation. > Message-Id:8G43DP57_5489eed0bf993_5c243ff0158cd328236197_sprut > > _______________________________________________ > EE mailing list > EE(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/ee > >

-- Tilman Bayer Senior Operations Analyst (Movement Communications) Wikimedia Foundation IRC (Freenode): HaeB

Pine W

7:51 p.m.

New subject: [Wikimedia Foundation] Update: Re: Justine, I'll keep it short

Tilman, we need to talk, preferably with Katherine present. Please email me off list with your availability for next week. Thanks, Pine On Dec 11, 2014 1:16 PM, "Tilman Bayer" <tbayer(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:

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Hm, is the donate@ email address automatically forwarding emails to EE? If so, this is a problem. Can someone look into this ASAP? Pine On Dec 11, 2014 11:22 AM, <donate(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: > ##- Please type your reply above this line -## > > You are registered as a cc on this help desk request and are thus > receiving email notifications on all updates to the request. > Reply to this email to add a comment to the request. > > ------------------------------ > > *Pine W, Dec 11 11:21 AM:* > > Hi Donor services, > > I'm confused. EE is a public email list. Why would a donor's name and > email content be sent here? Did the donor consent to this? Also, what was > the purpose of sending this email to EE? This appears to have been some > kind of mistake. > > Thanks, > Pine > > ------------------------------ > > *Andrey Valkov, Dec 11 05:50 AM:* > > Hi Justine, > > Thank you for your email. > > The Wikimedia Foundation does not actually manage or contribute to the > editorial content of Wikipedia or our other projects. We are here primarily > to provide infrastructure and support the tens of thousands of volunteers > around the world who edit and contribute everyday. If you need help with an > edit, you'd want to email info(a)wikimedia.org. This email address is > answered by longtime project volunteers, and they can help with your > question. > > Sincerely, > > Andrey Valkov > Donor Services Associate > Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. > wikimediafoundation.org > Support us! https://donate.wikimedia.org > > ------------------------------ > > *Justine Tenzeldam, Dec 05 12:30 PM:* > > OK. I'll consider a donation. And, if Wikipedia Editors can become more > helpful and accommodating to folks like me, perhaps I'll consider more! > (Trying to participate is downright painful right now.) Best > Regards,Justine tenZeldam510.447.9435 (talk/txt) > www.solongsuburbs.comwww.justine.webstarts.comwww.twitter.com/justinetzwww.… > > On Friday, December 5, 2014 10:34 AM, "Jimmy Wales, Wikipedia" < > donate(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: > > #yiv5329025495 p {margin:1em 0;}#yiv5329025495 #yiv5329025495outlook > a{padding:0;}#yiv5329025495 > .yiv5329025495ReadMsgBody{width:100%;}#yiv5329025495 > .yiv5329025495ExternalClass{width:100%;}#yiv5329025495 body{}#yiv5329025495 > .yiv5329025495appleLinks a {color:rgb(0, 0, 0);text-decoration:none;} Dear > Justine, Thank you for helping keep Wikipedia online and ad-free. I’m sure > you’re busy, so I’ll get right to it. We need your help again this year. > Please help us forget about fundraising and get back to improving > Wikipedia. If all our past donors simply gave again today, we wouldn't have > to worry about fundraising for the rest of the year. We are the small > non-profit that runs one of the top 10 websites in the world. We only have > about 200 staff but serve 500 million users, and have costs like any other > top site: servers, power, programs, and people. Wikipedia is something > special. It is like a library or a public park. It is like a temple for the > mind, a place we can all go to think and learn. To protect our > independence, we'll never run ads. We take no government funds. We survive > on donations from our readers. Now is the time we ask. If Wikipedia is > useful to you, please take one minute to keep it online and ad-free another > year. https://donate.wikimedia.org Thanks, > Jimmy Wales > Wikipedia Founder > | > | DONATE NOW » | > > | > > You are receiving this email at justinejobsearch(a)gmail.com as a valued > donor of the Wikimedia Foundation. If you do not wish to receive any future > emails from the Wikimedia Foundation, unsubscribe instantly. Wikimedia > Foundation, Inc. > P.O. Box 98204 > Washington, DC 20090-8204 > United States of America enUS14 > > *Pine W, Dec 11 11:21 AM:* > > Hi Donor services, > > I'm confused. EE is a public email list. Why would a donor's name and > email content be sent here? Did the donor consent to this? Also, what was > the purpose of sending this email to EE? This appears to have been some > kind of mistake. > > Thanks, > Pine > > ------------------------------ > > *Andrey Valkov, Dec 11 05:50 AM:* > > Hi Justine, > > Thank you for your email. > > The Wikimedia Foundation does not actually manage or contribute to the > editorial content of Wikipedia or our other projects. We are here primarily > to provide infrastructure and support the tens of thousands of volunteers > around the world who edit and contribute everyday. If you need help with an > edit, you'd want to email info(a)wikimedia.org. This email address is > answered by longtime project volunteers, and they can help with your > question. > > Sincerely, > > Andrey Valkov > Donor Services Associate > Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. > wikimediafoundation.org > Support us! https://donate.wikimedia.org > > ------------------------------ > > *Justine Tenzeldam, Dec 05 12:30 PM:* > > OK. I'll consider a donation. And, if Wikipedia Editors can become more > helpful and accommodating to folks like me, perhaps I'll consider more! > (Trying to participate is downright painful right now.) Best > Regards,Justine tenZeldam510.447.9435 (talk/txt) > www.solongsuburbs.comwww.justine.webstarts.comwww.twitter.com/justinetzwww.… > > On Friday, December 5, 2014 10:34 AM, "Jimmy Wales, Wikipedia" < > donate(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: > > #yiv5329025495 p {margin:1em 0;}#yiv5329025495 #yiv5329025495outlook > a{padding:0;}#yiv5329025495 > .yiv5329025495ReadMsgBody{width:100%;}#yiv5329025495 > .yiv5329025495ExternalClass{width:100%;}#yiv5329025495 body{}#yiv5329025495 > .yiv5329025495appleLinks a {color:rgb(0, 0, 0);text-decoration:none;} Dear > Justine, Thank you for helping keep Wikipedia online and ad-free. I’m sure > you’re busy, so I’ll get right to it. We need your help again this year. > Please help us forget about fundraising and get back to improving > Wikipedia. If all our past donors simply gave again today, we wouldn't have > to worry about fundraising for the rest of the year. We are the small > non-profit that runs one of the top 10 websites in the world. We only have > about 200 staff but serve 500 million users, and have costs like any other > top site: servers, power, programs, and people. Wikipedia is something > special. It is like a library or a public park. It is like a temple for the > mind, a place we can all go to think and learn. To protect our > independence, we'll never run ads. We take no government funds. We survive > on donations from our readers. Now is the time we ask. If Wikipedia is > useful to you, please take one minute to keep it online and ad-free another > year. https://donate.wikimedia.org Thanks, > Jimmy Wales > Wikipedia Founder > | > | DONATE NOW » | > > | > > You are receiving this email at justinejobsearch(a)gmail.com as a valued > donor of the Wikimedia Foundation. If you do not wish to receive any future > emails from the Wikimedia Foundation, unsubscribe instantly. Wikimedia > Foundation, Inc. > P.O. Box 98204 > Washington, DC 20090-8204 > United States of America enUS14 > This email is a service from Wikimedia Foundation. > Message-Id:8G43DP57_5489eed0bf993_5c243ff0158cd328236197_sprut > > _______________________________________________ > EE mailing list > EE(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/ee > >

-- Tilman Bayer Senior Operations Analyst (Movement Communications) Wikimedia Foundation IRC (Freenode): HaeB

Richard Symonds

8 p.m.

New subject: [Wikimedia Foundation] Update: Re: Justine, I'll keep it short

Let's move to a new thread so we don't keep compounding the data protection issue, yes?

Fabrice Florin

4:17 p.m.

Hi Pine, Thanks for reporting this issue, which is concerning indeed. As a former product manager for the Editor Engagement team, I still have admin privileges for this list. But I do not know how to remove a message that was posted in the public archives, such as this one: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/ee/2014-December/001329.html If someone could teach me how, I would be happy to do remove the messages on this thread. I defer to others with more technical knowledge to identify the root cause of this issue. My colleagues and I will discuss this internally and will report back here once we have a solution. Be well, Fabrice

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On Dec 11, 2014, at 11:29 AM, Pine W <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hm, is the donate@ email address automatically forwarding emails to EE? If so, this is a problem. Can someone look into this ASAP? Pine On Dec 11, 2014 11:22 AM, <donate(a)wikimedia.org <mailto:donate@wikimedia.org>> wrote: ##- Please type your reply above this line -## You are registered as a cc on this help desk request and are thus receiving email notifications on all updates to the request. Reply to this email to add a comment to the request. Pine W, Dec 11 11:21 AM: Hi Donor services, I'm confused. EE is a public email list. Why would a donor's name and email content be sent here? Did the donor consent to this? Also, what was the purpose of sending this email to EE? This appears to have been some kind of mistake. Thanks, Pine Andrey Valkov, Dec 11 05:50 AM: Hi Justine, Thank you for your email. The Wikimedia Foundation does not actually manage or contribute to the editorial content of Wikipedia or our other projects. We are here primarily to provide infrastructure and support the tens of thousands of volunteers around the world who edit and contribute everyday. If you need help with an edit, you'd want to email info(a)wikimedia.org <mailto:info@wikimedia.org>. This email address is answered by longtime project volunteers, and they can help with your question. Sincerely, Andrey Valkov Donor Services Associate Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. wikimediafoundation.org <http://wikimediafoundation.org/> Support us! https://donate.wikimedia.org <https://donate.wikimedia.org/> Justine Tenzeldam, Dec 05 12:30 PM: OK. I'll consider a donation. And, if Wikipedia Editors can become more helpful and accommodating to folks like me, perhaps I'll consider more! (Trying to participate is downright painful right now.) Best Regards,Justine tenZeldam510.447.9435 (talk/txt)www.solongsuburbs.comwww.justine.webstarts.comwww.twitter.com/just… <http://www.solongsuburbs.comwww.justine.webstarts.comwww.twitter.com/justinetzwww.linkedin.com/in/justinet> On Friday, December 5, 2014 10:34 AM, "Jimmy Wales, Wikipedia" <donate(a)wikimedia.org <mailto:donate@wikimedia.org>> wrote: #yiv5329025495 p {margin:1em 0;}#yiv5329025495 #yiv5329025495outlook a{padding:0;}#yiv5329025495 .yiv5329025495ReadMsgBody{width:100%;}#yiv5329025495 .yiv5329025495ExternalClass{width:100%;}#yiv5329025495 body{}#yiv5329025495 .yiv5329025495appleLinks a {color:rgb(0, 0, 0);text-decoration:none;} Dear Justine, Thank you for helping keep Wikipedia online and ad-free. I’m sure you’re busy, so I’ll get right to it. We need your help again this year. Please help us forget about fundraising and get back to improving Wikipedia. If all our past donors simply gave again today, we wouldn't have to worry about fundraising for the rest of the year. We are the small non-profit that runs one of the top 10 websites in the world. We only have about 200 staff but serve 500 million users, and have costs like any other top site: servers, power, programs, and people. Wikipedia is something special. It is like a library or a public park. It is like a temple for the mind, a place we can all go to think and learn. To protect our independence, we'll never run ads. We take no government funds. We survive on donations from our readers. Now is the time we ask. If Wikipedia is useful to you, please take one minute to keep it online and ad-free another year. https://donate.wikimedia.org <https://donate.wikimedia.org/> Thanks, Jimmy Wales Wikipedia Founder | | DONATE NOW » | | You are receiving this email at justinejobsearch(a)gmail.com <mailto:justinejobsearch@gmail.com> as a valued donor of the Wikimedia Foundation. If you do not wish to receive any future emails from the Wikimedia Foundation, unsubscribe instantly. Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. P.O. Box 98204 Washington, DC 20090-8204 United States of America enUS14 Pine W, Dec 11 11:21 AM: Hi Donor services, I'm confused. EE is a public email list. Why would a donor's name and email content be sent here? Did the donor consent to this? Also, what was the purpose of sending this email to EE? This appears to have been some kind of mistake. Thanks, Pine Andrey Valkov, Dec 11 05:50 AM: Hi Justine, Thank you for your email. The Wikimedia Foundation does not actually manage or contribute to the editorial content of Wikipedia or our other projects. We are here primarily to provide infrastructure and support the tens of thousands of volunteers around the world who edit and contribute everyday. If you need help with an edit, you'd want to email info(a)wikimedia.org <mailto:info@wikimedia.org>. This email address is answered by longtime project volunteers, and they can help with your question. Sincerely, Andrey Valkov Donor Services Associate Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. wikimediafoundation.org <http://wikimediafoundation.org/> Support us! https://donate.wikimedia.org <https://donate.wikimedia.org/> Justine Tenzeldam, Dec 05 12:30 PM: OK. I'll consider a donation. And, if Wikipedia Editors can become more helpful and accommodating to folks like me, perhaps I'll consider more! (Trying to participate is downright painful right now.) Best Regards,Justine tenZeldam510.447.9435 (talk/txt)www.solongsuburbs.comwww.justine.webstarts.comwww.twitter.com/just… <http://www.solongsuburbs.comwww.justine.webstarts.comwww.twitter.com/justinetzwww.linkedin.com/in/justinet> On Friday, December 5, 2014 10:34 AM, "Jimmy Wales, Wikipedia" <donate(a)wikimedia.org <mailto:donate@wikimedia.org>> wrote: #yiv5329025495 p {margin:1em 0;}#yiv5329025495 #yiv5329025495outlook a{padding:0;}#yiv5329025495 .yiv5329025495ReadMsgBody{width:100%;}#yiv5329025495 .yiv5329025495ExternalClass{width:100%;}#yiv5329025495 body{}#yiv5329025495 .yiv5329025495appleLinks a {color:rgb(0, 0, 0);text-decoration:none;} Dear Justine, Thank you for helping keep Wikipedia online and ad-free. I’m sure you’re busy, so I’ll get right to it. We need your help again this year. Please help us forget about fundraising and get back to improving Wikipedia. If all our past donors simply gave again today, we wouldn't have to worry about fundraising for the rest of the year. We are the small non-profit that runs one of the top 10 websites in the world. We only have about 200 staff but serve 500 million users, and have costs like any other top site: servers, power, programs, and people. Wikipedia is something special. It is like a library or a public park. It is like a temple for the mind, a place we can all go to think and learn. To protect our independence, we'll never run ads. We take no government funds. We survive on donations from our readers. Now is the time we ask. If Wikipedia is useful to you, please take one minute to keep it online and ad-free another year. https://donate.wikimedia.org <https://donate.wikimedia.org/> Thanks, Jimmy Wales Wikipedia Founder | | DONATE NOW » | | You are receiving this email at justinejobsearch(a)gmail.com <mailto:justinejobsearch@gmail.com> as a valued donor of the Wikimedia Foundation. If you do not wish to receive any future emails from the Wikimedia Foundation, unsubscribe instantly. Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 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Alex Monk

4:28 p.m.

New subject: [EE] [Wikimedia Foundation] Update: Re: Justine, I’ll keep it short

You need access to the mailman server to remove messages from the mailman archives - so you basically need to be ops. Removing archived messages is a terrible idea[0], breaks all archive links for the list, and I very much doubt ops will do it unless legally obligated to do so. Even if they did, it would be pointless because there is already at least one third party mirror[1]. [0] https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Remove_a_message_from_mailing_list_arch… [1] https://www.mail-archive.com/ee@lists.wikimedia.org/msg00437.html On 11 December 2014 at 21:17, Fabrice Florin <fflorin(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:

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Jeremy Baron

4:31 p.m.

New subject: [EE] [Wikimedia Foundation] Update: Re: Justine, I’ll keep it short

On Dec 11, 2014 4:17 PM, "Fabrice Florin" <fflorin(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:

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If someone could teach me how, I would be happy to do remove the messages

on this thread. That can only be done by a root. It's sometimes more destructive to the rest of the archives than we're willing to accept and always takes a substantial amount of a root's time. oh, and it disrupts delivery of new messages during the surgery. -Jeremy

Pine W

7:58 p.m.

New subject: [EE] [Wikimedia Foundation] Update: Re: Justine, I’ll keep it short

Thanks very much, Fabrice. Pine On Dec 11, 2014 1:17 PM, "Fabrice Florin" <fflorin(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:

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