On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 1:30 AM, Jared Zimmerman
<jzimmerman(a)wikimedia.org>wrote;wrote:
Ryan, what about the argument that the font system
will automatically do a
replacement for Helvetia neue
You mean "Helvetica"; but we're talking about the Georgia, serif font font
stack for headers.
, rather than going to the next font in the list,
effectively putting the
choice in some Linux developers hands rather that ours?
On Ubuntu, the equivalent font substitutions are Nimbus Roman No9 L for
"Times", and Tinos, Liberation Serif, Thorndale, and Thorndale AMT for
"Times New Roman"; of the latter set I only have Liberation Serif (note
it's not the Linux Libertine that Kaldari recommends), so I get that one.
So the equivalent of
font-family: "Helvetica Neue", "Helvetica", "Nimbus Sans L",
"Arial",
"Liberation Sans", sans-serif;
is something like:
font-family: "Georgia", "Times", "Linux Libertine", serif;
As I said when we discussed sans-serif font stack ([Wikitech-l] Should
MediaWiki CSS prefer non-free fonts?), if we prefer the open source font
(for the criteria Denis Jacquerye mentions), then we should list it before
the proprietary font. The problem remains: getting designers and l10n
advisers to install and verifiably use these open source fonts on Mac and
Windows in order to make the call.
Nobody responded to
http://jsfiddle.net/UPBUH/7/ with useful info on what
Android, Mac, or Windows does, but it's still there if someone wants to add
the serif fonts.
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=S Page Features engineer