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On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 1:39 AM, Mathieu Stumpf
<psychoslave(a)culture-libre.org> wrote:
Thank for your clarifying answer.
To my mind, simple icons are fine, and I agree with all your
arguments. I came with nuvola only because this was an
existing (sleeping) project, whom icons are already widely
used in Wikimedia projects. Having an homogeneous icon set
covering all subjects which may need one in Wikimedia projects
is already a daunting task. So going with basic pictograms,
like [1], seems a good idea to me. Moreover, once you have a
good "black and white" form, it's easy to add colors, shadow,
blurs, and glossy/shiny aspect to it. One may even come with a
script to automate the process. Maybe not easily with a 100%
out of the box satisfying result on all output, but it could
clearly be a path to speed up the process.
Still I'm pretty sure I've seen a "creating a public domain
icon set for wikimedia" project previously this year, I fail
to retrieve the references. I can create a new project on
meta/commons, but if there is already one this would be
wasting time and energy. Does anyone know of such an existing
project?
[1]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Public_information_symbols
Le 2013-06-07 03:48, Jared Zimmerman a écrit :
Mathieu,
to second what Pau said I think that while we
appreciate the effort
here, multi-colored icons that are not necessarily
from vector (vs
raster) based sources really increases the overhead to
maintain the
visual system.
Single color icons that are resolution independent
that we can scale,
modify, and display easily on desktop and mobile are
much more
useful.
Depending on design direction, single color "metaphor"
icons and
easily change with the look of the site over time, and
don't
necessarily have a strong look & feel of their own,
this gives the
foundation and designer that help us out more leeway
to explore
different design options.
We also would love to see greater consistency, if you
look at the
icon guidelines for Windows, OS X, Android, or iOS you
will see
cohesive systems for color, perspective, shape, as
well as suggestions
on how to deal with certain metaphors and concepts.
Because many of
the assets will be created by the community having
guidelines like
this is very helpful, and i'd love for my team to
eventually create
these. The icons you've shown as part of Nuvola are
very creative and
represent a pretty high barrier to entry for someone
with basic image
editing skills. If like Pau suggests we utilize the
simple flat or
subtly volumetric style found on the Noun Project the
barrier to entry
feel much lower to new users wanting to contribute.
Not to say that creating simplicity is simple, but I
think it is a
good place to start.
Thanks again for your contributions, check out the
Noun Project and
let us know your thoughts
Jared
JARED
ZIMMERMAN \ Director of User Experience \ Wikimedia
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On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Mathieu Stumpf
<psychoslave(a)culture-libre.org> wrote:
Le jeudi 30 mai 2013 à 15:29 +0200, Pau Giner
a écrit :
The Noun project has icons for very
diverse topics, so it may be
helpful in general. Their science and math
category does seem not to
cover the specific concepts you mention, but
some of the available
ones may be useful as inspiration.
Pau
Oh, sorry, I just realized that indeed someone
answered, and in fact I
even added the link in the external link
section of the project. :P
Now, the project list many "review needed",
but don't document the
review process, do you have any
idea/suggestion?
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Mathieu
Stumpf
<psychoslave(a)culture-libre.org> wrote:
Hello,
Seeking for icons to reprent things
like
"axioms", "theorems"
and so on for the french
wikiversity, I found the "Project
Nuvola 2.0+"[1], despite it seems
that there's currently not
much activity on it, I began to put
new proposals on the page.
I think I red some messages on this
list about this topic. Is
there some active projects I should
look at?
By the way, if you have ideas to
illustrate the
following
concepts, let me know:
Axiom
Corollary
Definition
Example
Lemma
Principle
Proof
Property
Suggestion
Theorem
You may look at [2] to see my
current proposals
for some of
them.
[1]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Project_Nuvola_2.0% [1]
2B
[2]
https://fr.wikiversity.org/wiki/Modèle:Emphase
[2]
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