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Quim Gil

28 Jan 2013 28 Jan '13

10:12 p.m.

I finally started working on my FOSDEM presentation for this Sunday: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Byty3JbESp0aek1iWkV6SmZpMU0/edit (updated on a daily basis this week) Regardless of the title (catchy for the call for papers and the conference schedule) it is an intro to How to contribute to MediaWiki and Wikip/media tech tasks. It's not even an alpha, but in terms of design you can see there where I'm going. Feedback welcome. In terms of general design, I'm taking as reference https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Design and subpages. Then I'm trying to recycle the consistency the presentation requires and use for the consistency we lack and we need at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_contribute and related pages. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Design/Agora_Icon_Set is all about black icons so I have been fishing at http://thenounproject.com/ Those icons will start identifying activities at mediawiki.org e.g. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/QA/Weekly_goals Again, your opinion (and better alternatives) are welcome. PS: looking for an icon for the Mobile slide I came across http://thenounproject.com/noun/flying-saucer/#icon-No9877 by our beloved Heather. Hello there! :) PS2: but I was looking for something lighter so I ended up with http://thenounproject.com/noun/paper-plane/#icon-No3756 . In fact the icon for "Mobile" was the one that took me more time to find, by large. So many stereotypes but so limiting and deprecated by reality so fast. -- Quim Gil Technical Contributor Coordinator @ Wikimedia Foundation http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil

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Quim Gil

29 Jan 29 Jan

7:16 a.m.

New URL: On 01/28/2013 02:12 PM, Quim Gil wrote:

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I finally started working on my FOSDEM presentation for this Sunday:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:How_to_hack_on_Wikiped…

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(updated on a daily basis this week) Regardless of the title (catchy for the call for papers and the conference schedule) it is an intro to How to contribute to MediaWiki and Wikip/media tech tasks. It's not even an alpha, but in terms of design you can see there where I'm going. Feedback welcome. In terms of general design, I'm taking as reference https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Design and subpages. Then I'm trying to recycle the consistency the presentation requires and use for the consistency we lack and we need at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_contribute and related pages. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Design/Agora_Icon_Set is all about black icons so I have been fishing at http://thenounproject.com/ Those icons will start identifying activities at mediawiki.org e.g. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/QA/Weekly_goals Again, your opinion (and better alternatives) are welcome. PS: looking for an icon for the Mobile slide I came across http://thenounproject.com/noun/flying-saucer/#icon-No9877 by our beloved Heather. Hello there! :) PS2: but I was looking for something lighter so I ended up with http://thenounproject.com/noun/paper-plane/#icon-No3756 . In fact the icon for "Mobile" was the one that took me more time to find, by large. So many stereotypes but so limiting and deprecated by reality so fast.

-- Quim Gil Technical Contributor Coordinator @ Wikimedia Foundation http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil

Steven Walling

7:22 a.m.

I would say "gadgets and userscripts" not just gadgets. A user script on a local project is probably the lowest barrier to entry new project possible. On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 11:16 PM, Quim Gil <qgil(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:

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New URL: On 01/28/2013 02:12 PM, Quim Gil wrote:

I finally started working on my FOSDEM presentation for this Sunday:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/**w/index.php?title=File:How_to_** hack_on_Wikipedia.pdf<https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fi… (updated on a daily basis this week)

Regardless of the title (catchy for the call for papers and the conference schedule) it is an intro to How to contribute to MediaWiki and Wikip/media tech tasks. It's not even an alpha, but in terms of design you can see there where I'm going. Feedback welcome. In terms of general design, I'm taking as reference https://www.mediawiki.org/**wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_**Design<https://w… subpages. Then I'm trying to recycle the consistency the presentation requires and use for the consistency we lack and we need at https://www.mediawiki.org/**wiki/How_to_contribute<https://www.mediawiki… and related pages. https://www.mediawiki.org/**wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_** Design/Agora_Icon_Set<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundatio… all about black icons so I have been fishing at http://thenounproject.com/ Those icons will start identifying activities at mediawiki.org e.g. https://www.mediawiki.org/**wiki/QA/Weekly_goals<https://www.mediawiki.o… Again, your opinion (and better alternatives) are welcome. PS: looking for an icon for the Mobile slide I came across http://thenounproject.com/**noun/flying-saucer/#icon-**No9877<http://the… our beloved Heather. Hello there! :) PS2: but I was looking for something lighter so I ended up with http://thenounproject.com/**noun/paper-plane/#icon-No3756<http://thenoun…56>. In fact the icon for "Mobile" was the one that took me more time to find, by large. So many stereotypes but so limiting and deprecated by reality so fast.

-- Quim Gil Technical Contributor Coordinator @ Wikimedia Foundation http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/**User:Qgil<http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/… ______________________________**_________________ Design mailing list Design(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/design<https://lists.wiki…

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Matthew Flaschen

7:12 p.m.

On 01/29/2013 02:22 AM, Steven Walling wrote:

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A user script on a local project is probably the lowest barrier to entry new project possible.

Quim, I hope you don't mind that I'm giving content feedback, rather than design. You should probably ask for content feedback again on Wikitech at some point Steven is definitely right re gadgets. The slide as written really applies more to user scripts. You can't share a gadget directly, since it requires admin approval. It's pretty easy to turn a user script into a gadget, though. For the Labs slide, I would also focus more on "Want to host some cool Wikimedia- or MediaWiki-related project? Do it on Labs!" While some volunteers will use Labs to practice being a production sysadmin, I think they're the minority. More will do things like OxygenGuide (Wikivoyage project now hosted on Labs) or ProveIt (http://proveit.wmflabs.org/) There's a a couple minor typos: * (too/to) on the API slide. * "there is hundreds" should be "are". I don't know a lot about it, but (per question in slides) I do think people are being shifted from Toolserver to Labs. I wouldn't describe MediaWiki/Core as a CMS (it's really wiki software). Just "Core software" should be fine. And maybe "some do enjoy", dropping insiders. For that slide, you can use the MW logo (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/mediawiki/b/bc/Wiki.png) Matt Flaschen

Quim Gil

7:20 p.m.

On 01/29/2013 11:12 AM, Matthew Flaschen wrote:

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On 01/29/2013 02:22 AM, Steven Walling wrote:

A user script on a local project is probably the lowest barrier to entry new project possible.

Quim, I hope you don't mind that I'm giving content feedback, rather than design. You should probably ask for content feedback again on Wikitech at some point

Yes, I just want to have the content more ironed before jumping to wikitech-l.

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Steven is definitely right re gadgets. The slide as written really applies more to user scripts. You can't share a gadget directly, since it requires admin approval. It's pretty easy to turn a user script into a gadget, though.

Ok. Thinking...

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For the Labs slide, I would also focus more on "Want to host some cool Wikimedia- or MediaWiki-related project? Do it on Labs!" While some volunteers will use Labs to practice being a production sysadmin, I think they're the minority. More will do things like OxygenGuide (Wikivoyage project now hosted on Labs) or ProveIt (http://proveit.wmflabs.org/)

The problem is that primarily I want to do a Sysadmin slide, being the mention to Labs a consequence of it. I asked the DevOps team what kind of sysadmin contributions could someone volunteer for and had a hard time getting an answer I could use. Kind of a paradox considering that sysadmin was a basic volunteering tech task years ago, but I'm digressing. :)

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There's a a couple minor typos: * (too/to) on the API slide. * "there is hundreds" should be "are". I don't know a lot about it, but (per question in slides) I do think people are being shifted from Toolserver to Labs. I wouldn't describe MediaWiki/Core as a CMS (it's really wiki software). Just "Core software" should be fine. And maybe "some do enjoy", dropping insiders. For that slide, you can use the MW logo (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/mediawiki/b/bc/Wiki.png)

Good points. Expect them fixed in the next iteration. Thank you! -- Quim Gil Technical Contributor Coordinator @ Wikimedia Foundation http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil

Quim Gil

7:13 p.m.

On 01/28/2013 11:22 PM, Steven Walling wrote:

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I would say "gadgets and userscripts" not just gadgets. A user script on a local project is probably the lowest barrier to entry new project possible.

Good point. Being such a wide overview to be served in 10 minutes, I will stay with "Gadgets" for the title of the slide and then comment the beauty of userscripts in the text area and in the speech.

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I finally started working on my FOSDEM presentation for this Sunday: https://commons.wikimedia.org/__w/index.php?title=File:How_to___hack_on_Wik…

-- Quim Gil Technical Contributor Coordinator @ Wikimedia Foundation http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil

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