That's partly (but not strongly) why I think both should be quiet destructive. But since both would be quiet, either quiet neutral (cancel) or quiet destructive (discard) the user won't actually see a color change or appearance when they enter text. 

For non-JS I'll say what I always say. We should have a graceful controlled degradation for these users. In this can they will see no change. eg. the button will always say cancel , and not change based on their actions. 

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On Mar 5, 2014, at 7:22 AM, Shahyar Ghobadpour <sghobadpour@wikimedia.org> wrote:

Do we really want to change the button from something else to destructive once text has been entered? What do we do about users whose browsers don't support JavaScript?

We need to be careful with setting too strict of rules in situations like this. I find the color of the button is important for many users to distinguish the difference between actions at first glance. In the case of Flow, where we have Cancel (or Discard -- the wording of which actually makes more sense), Preview, and Reply/Add topic, I don't want to have two buttons side-by-side of the exact same color that perform drastically different actions (Preview and Cancel).

--Shahyar


On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Steven Walling <swalling@wikimedia.org> wrote:

On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 8:20 AM, Matthew Flaschen <mflaschen@wikimedia.org> wrote:
The current proposed change to use mw-ui-button for save/preview/show changes/cancel (on the edit screen) uses mw-ui-destructive (with quiet) for the cancel button.  This directly contradicts the style guide, which says, "This should not be used for cancel buttons.".

As noted at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/116725/ , my understanding of destructive is that you are deleting something that was already publicly visible, or at least has an impact beyond your own personal session.

The cancel button doesn't seem to fit that.  Cancel is a common concept, and semantically clear, so perhaps we should simply add mw-ui-cancel.

In addition to that... the author is asking if Save page should be mw-ui-constructive (green). That's correct right? mw-ui-primary is actually deprecated in the new version, and save is not a multi-step action so it's not mw-ui-progressive (blue).

Jared?

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Steven Walling,
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