Hi Aaron,

On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 01:31:58PM -0500, Aaron Halfaker wrote:
> I don't know what type of things you are referring to.  Should we manage
> tasks on this list or can they stay in mingle/trello?

Keep Trello!
Keep Mingle! well ... :-D

But seriously, keep doing whatever you used to do, and using whatever
tools that you used to use. My post really only targets the Analytics
Development team (see last email's greeting). That's the place where
it seemed to me that we had general agreement about the policy. I am
not trying to mess with the Research & Data team. So feel free to
ignore :-)

> [...], but there should be a

> definition of what is relevant and what is not. Could you help me
> understand with a few examples?

I hope that common sense will lead us along the path :-)
Of course Apache's use of it, as requirement to bring technical
discussions/decisions to the list, serves as example.

So assume we would have a Hangout meeting tomorrow, where we would
decide to ditch Hadoop and reimplement it because of NIH. That'd be
“ok” only if we bring the decision and discussion to the list.

If Toby has new information about the level of privacy we have to
employ around Wikipedia Zero data, it is fine if he tells the
Development team in a Hangout. But it did not “happen” until he posted
it to a list.

Thereby, it is assured that we have decisions and discussions around it
* visible,
* archived, and
* addressable via an URL.

A different example is that the Development recently discussed doing a
spike around how to best consume the request stream's compressed json
in Hadoop through Pig. That's not a decision per se, but I'd hope
(others might disagree :-) ) that it will lead to a short post to this
list, so others can see the outcome and later revisit, refer to or use
it.

On the other end, obviously my nice's next birthday, or me switching
from Emacs to Vi, or minor things like whether or not we use
constructor injection or setter injection for $RANDOM_CLASS_X would
not not require mails to the list under normal circumstances from my
point of view.

As you directly asked about whether or not one should manage tasks on
this list; I hope we do not need to. From my point of view, that would
increase noise a lot. But in a condensed manner that would totally
make sense to me. Like Toby sent out a “Sprint Planning Update” some
days ago, just like Diederik used to do. That looked good to me.

Have fun,
Christian

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